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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 August 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 September 2023

Jeremy Balfour

Obviously, we will support the regulations this morning. However, I have made the point on numerous occasions—and I will make it again—that I think that the process is slightly flawed. We take evidence from the cabinet secretary and then immediately have to vote on the regulations. As a Parliament, we have to look at the fact that, even if what the cabinet secretary has said today causes us concern, we have no option but to vote either for or against the regulations, and the Scottish Government has no time to reflect on the questions that we have asked. That is a procedural rather than a substantial issue.

There is still concern about some individuals, particularly in certain education settings, being left behind. In your answers, cabinet secretary, you said that there are varying views on the matter. The evidence that we have taken as a committee is that the payment should be made. I am grateful that you have said that you are going to look at the matter again, and I hope that we can look at it sooner rather than later. The danger, once we pass regulations as a Parliament, is that we then move on to the next thing and leave people behind. I hope that you will take what we and you have heard seriously and that some amended regulations can be brought forward in this parliamentary session. I am interested to know whether that is the timescale that you would be looking at, if you were to bring forward changes.

I also look forward to seeing the proposals in your bill, later this year, which will deal with the overpayment issue and the right of appeal. Again, we have taken evidence on that.

As someone who benefits from unpaid care, I think that we all recognise the massive role that unpaid carers play in our society. Often, those individuals do not necessarily want to do it but are put in a position whereby they have to do it because of their family situation—geographically or just because of how their family is made up. I welcome what we are doing here, as a Parliament, and I think that it will make a difference to individual lives. However, as you said, we do not want to leave anyone behind. I would welcome a mention—perhaps in your summing up—of the timescale that you are looking at for at least thinking about bringing in any changes.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 28 September 2023

Jeremy Balfour

Thank you.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 September 2023

Jeremy Balfour

I will follow that up with two brief supplementary questions. You are absolutely right to say that not all caring is necessarily age appropriate. However, people are where they are and, sadly, some people’s only choice is to use a son, daughter or sibling to help, because there is no one else to do it. I accept that we do not want to push people into caring, but sometimes they are pushed into it yet will no longer get any financial assistance.

In addition, are we not making a distinction between different types of education? We are saying that, if they are in one form of education, they can have money but, if they are in another, they cannot. I am concerned that we are making a false comparison between different types of education rather than recognising that, whatever way people go, further education is important.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Jeremy Balfour

I will move on slightly. What considerations does the Scottish Government take into account in deciding whether or not to delegate a power in a bill, in order to satisfy itself that that is appropriate? How do you work that one out?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Jeremy Balfour

Yes.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Jeremy Balfour

Thank you. I will leave it there, convener.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Jeremy Balfour

Good morning, minister. I thank you and your team for coming along.

I will move us on. Your officials provide the committee and subject committees with a helpful weekly update of instruments that are expected to be laid in the following two weeks. Can you or your officials indicate the anticipated volume of SSIs that are likely to be laid between now and Christmas, and which committees are likely to be the lead committees? If you cannot provide that to us today, perhaps you could drop a note to us.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Jeremy Balfour

Thank you, minister, that is helpful. Although the answer might be “no”, I want to push you a wee bit harder on that. Committees need as much notice as possible for larger, or more complex, SSIs, especially large packages of instruments that need more scrutiny. Do you know whether any such instruments are in the pipeline in the next few months?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Jeremy Balfour

Without becoming too philosophical, do you think that there has been a change, both in the Scottish Government and at Westminster, with regard to using framework bills more often than was the case 20 or 30 years ago? If so, is that a deliberate policy decision or just something that has evolved over time?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Jeremy Balfour

In looking to the future and the programme for government that was announced just a few weeks ago, what balance has been struck with regard to what we just talked about, in respect of bills that are about to come forward?