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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 August 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

United Kingdom Government Welfare Reforms

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Jeremy Balfour

Chris, do you have the answer?

10:45  

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

United Kingdom Government Welfare Reforms

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Jeremy Balfour

I thank everyone for their answers. It is disappointing that the Secretary of State for Scotland and the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions have not been willing to come and give evidence to the committee, because the questions, particularly those posed by Sally Witcher, are ones that the committee would want to pursue. However, we are unable to do so, due to their lack of availability.

I am conscious of time, convener, so I will move on to the million-dollar鈥攐r in fact billion-dollar鈥攓uestion. The Scottish Fiscal Commission has identified that, by 2029-30, the Scottish Government will need to find approximately 拢2 billion if we are to continue down the road that we are on. That can be found if more money comes from the UK Government鈥攐r from tax-raising powers here in Scotland, although they are limited鈥攐r it can come from cutting other services and budgets. I appreciate that this is the question that none of you wants to answer, but what would you suggest that the next Scottish Government should do to find that 拢2 billion?

I will start with the economist.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Financial Considerations When Leaving an Abusive Relationship

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Jeremy Balfour

I do not think that we want to go back to the system that we had before this, where people went to the sheriff court to deal with the whole process. Can the issue be solved by fundamental change, or do we need to take the time to start again and look at a completely different model of delivering the service?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Financial Considerations When Leaving an Abusive Relationship

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Jeremy Balfour

I will move on to split payments, which have been talked about since universal credit came into existence. I think that we are getting closer to the point where everyone will be transferred to UC. How high up your list of priorities for changes to UC are split payments? I appreciate that there is a lot about UC that you want to see changed, but do split payments make the top 10 or the top five, for example?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Financial Considerations When Leaving an Abusive Relationship

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Jeremy Balfour

Do the other two witnesses want to come in on that?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Financial Considerations When Leaving an Abusive Relationship

Meeting date: 8 May 2025

Jeremy Balfour

Could you speak up slightly? I am having a slightly difficult time hearing you.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Financial Considerations When Leaving an Abusive Relationship

Meeting date: 8 May 2025

Jeremy Balfour

Have you looked at what type of firms are no longer doing a little bit of civil legal aid work? Is it sole practitioners or middle-sized firms, for example? Has the Law Society or the Scottish Legal Aid Board done any work on the types of firms that are doing civil legal aid work, compared to those who were doing it 20 or 30 years ago?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Financial Considerations When Leaving an Abusive Relationship

Meeting date: 8 May 2025

Jeremy Balfour

Okay. Perhaps my colleagues are too nice to ask this question, but I will ask it of the Law Society: is that simply because legal aid work does not pay enough money? Are solicitors choosing not to do that work鈥攑articularly family and civil legal aid work鈥攂ecause they are not getting what they think is enough of a return from it?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Financial Considerations When Leaving an Abusive Relationship

Meeting date: 8 May 2025

Jeremy Balfour

Apologies, but I would like to seek clarification from Colin Lancaster. You said that there has been no reduction in the total number of solicitors doing legal aid, which would include criminal and civil law cases. Has the number of solicitors who are practising civil and, particularly, family law fallen?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Financial Considerations When Leaving an Abusive Relationship

Meeting date: 8 May 2025

Jeremy Balfour

The Law Society鈥檚 submission suggests extending civil legal aid automatically to those with domestic abuse cases. I wonder whether I can explore that a wee bit. First, how would that work in practice? Who would make the decision about whether it was a domestic abuse case or some other case? Secondly鈥攖his is probably a more difficult question for Colin Lancaster鈥攄o you have any concept of how much that would cost the Scottish Legal Aid Board or the Scottish Government and, ultimately, the taxpayer?