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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 August 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Programme

Meeting date: 3 October 2022

Jeremy Balfour

As you said, convener, many of my points have been covered in previous questions.

Auditor General, you talked about the risk with regard to staffing and implementation of the larger benefits. My question is very general. Are there any other things that the committee should look at and monitor in the next couple of years?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Programme

Meeting date: 3 October 2022

Jeremy Balfour

Good morning, and thank you, both, for coming to a meeting on a Monday morning.

I have a couple of questions just to establish where we are at the moment. I think that the last contact that the audit team had with Social Security Scotland and the social security programme team before the report was published was in February of this year. Can you give us an update on what contacts you have had with them since then? Is there anything to update us on around that?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Programme

Meeting date: 3 October 2022

Jeremy Balfour

Yes.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Programme

Meeting date: 3 October 2022

Jeremy Balfour

That is helpful and it leads on to another quick question. We have had the pleasure, as a committee, of visiting the offices in Dundee on a number of occasions. It is a fairly large building. As we come out of Covid and people go back to the office, will you look at whether the Dundee building is good value for Social Security Scotland when it comes to whether it is being used and how many people are working there?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Savings and Reductions 2022-23

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Jeremy Balfour

You will come back to the Parliament in two or three weeks’ time with your budget. I think that last week’s United Kingdom budget will have resulted in some Barnett consequentials. I appreciate that it is early days yet—less than a week—but is there any mitigation from those Barnett consequentials that means that the cut or reduction, whichever word you want to use, might not have to take place?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Jeremy Balfour

Thank you. I will be interested in seeing what comes next week.

Last week, many of our witnesses said that there was no openness and transparency in the setting of last year’s budget. Engagement was lacking, and we did not get the information that we required. Do you agree that additional information will be helpful when engaging in the budget process as we look forward to next year?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Savings and Reductions 2022-23

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Jeremy Balfour

That is helpful, and I agree with your analysis of the situation. As we come out of Covid, the issue is that the number of disabled people who are unemployed has gone up compared with the pre-Covid figure, and that is true across many other parts of the world, so it is not just a Scottish issue. However, the percentage of disabled people who are unemployed is now much higher in Scotland than it is, for example, in England. My concern is that those who are particularly disabled and want to get back into employment will not get those services. Is it your analysis that the figure is likely to grow higher and that more disabled people will be unemployed in the next six to nine months because they are not getting the holistic support that they need to get into employment?

08:15  

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Savings and Reductions 2022-23

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Jeremy Balfour

I have just couple of questions, Deputy First Minister. How did you make the decision to cut that budget, and what effect will it have on encouraging people to use public transport rather than their cars?

08:30  

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Savings and Reductions 2022-23

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Jeremy Balfour

I will pick up on the new youth concessionary travel scheme. I say this as somebody who is a non-driver and who therefore uses the bus a lot: it amazes me how many children in Edinburgh are still not using the scheme. They are putting their fare in and paying for the bus.

One reason for that is that the scheme is quite complicated to apply for; I say that as somebody who tried to get it three times for my children. There is variation across Scotland in how to apply and how easy it is to apply. I wonder, not necessarily for this project, but looking forward, whether the Scottish Government could make applying for the scheme easier. The issue concerns me, particularly as people who struggle to get access to the internet or do not have a passport are not necessarily picking up on the scheme. They may be the people who need the scheme more than those who have already applied for it.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Savings and Reductions 2022-23

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Jeremy Balfour

I want to get a bit more detail on how the £82 million was going to be used in the first place. I am not sure that I could find that information within anything that has come to us. What was it going to be used for?