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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 August 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Tom Arthur

Our approach is not to set exact numbers or particular targets; the clear focus is on recognising the need to deliver services more efficiently, which means more shared services, more collaboration, and working across administrative and organisational boundaries. It also means looking at the disposition of our estate. All of those factors are in play, but key to this is a real focus on delivery and on ensuring that our public services do not just deliver services to meet the needs of people but are very much focused on a preventative agenda.

I recognise the committee’s interest in medium to longer-term fiscal sustainability, and opportunities to increase revenue—whether through tax or, in the medium term, economic growth—are going to be key. However, we know that we cannot meet that demand simply from increased revenue alone; we have to look at how we prevent that demand and avoid the risk of further demand emerging. It is about looking at how we reform our public services not just to meet the fiscal challenges that we face in the here and now but to deliver a more efficient and effective service that is focused on the preventative agenda. Embracing that approach is not about setting ourselves definite numbers for headcounts; instead, it is focused on those particular priorities and ensuring that we have a workforce that can meet that particular requirement.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Tom Arthur

That is why I referred to our consideration of the presentation of the budget and why we have to take cognisance of the Verity house agreement as well.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Tom Arthur

I want to highlight how that £2 million has been generated. There has been delivery of greater income streams through higher marine licensing fees. There are also more shared service arrangements and collaborative working, as part of a range of efficiency measures. That saving has been generated in a number of ways.

More generally, the decisions that we have to take as part of the budget revision process reflect changes that are taking place in-year. Indeed, the context in which all budget decisions will have to be taken is incredibly challenging—not just for the Scottish Government, but for the other devolved Administrations, too. It is among the most challenging since the reconvening of this Parliament nearly a quarter of a century ago. That means that we have to take difficult decisions to ensure that we can deliver our key priorities and meet the demands that emerge in-year, as I touched on, and to ensure that we can again deliver a balanced budget, as we have done consistently, previously.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Tom Arthur

We are also working with partners, and we continue to engage with COSLA. We will continue to monitor the situation in-year and, based on our understanding to date, decisions will be taken in the budget on allocations for the next financial year. We of course remain absolutely committed to ensuring that we support those who have come from Ukraine to Scotland.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Tom Arthur

Those settlements have been agreed and we have committed to them going forward, and future rounds of negotiation will take place in the usual way through the joint committee. We have worked constructively to ensure that we can support those pay settlements. As the committee will appreciate, they have necessitated our taking some quite challenging decisions, but that demonstrates the Government’s commitment to the teaching profession.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Tom Arthur

It was to support the teachers’ pay settlement.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Tom Arthur

As I have said, the money goes to the centre, and where it has been reallocated to is set out in the ABR document. For example, we have already touched on the resource for local government and the £30 million of support for Ukraine; the resource savings go to the centre and are reallocated. Is there anything that you want to add, Craig?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Tom Arthur

Pardon? I am sorry—I missed the last part of your sentence.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Tom Arthur

Those decisions will be taken as part of the budget process.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Tom Arthur

We have made that commitment.