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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 June 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Jamie Halcro Johnston

A lot of the questions that I was going to ask have been covered, so I will ask a follow-up question of James Close and Heather Buchanan. You have talked about the technology, the associated risk and the various stages of investment, and Colin Beattie talked about developing technologies and mentioned hydrogen. From your perspectives, are you seeing those technologies developing as quickly as you expected or would want them to? Where are they against expectations?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I am from Orkney, where a lot of work is being done on hydrogen. It is extremely interesting and exciting, but from speaking to many people about their confidence about how hydrogen is going to fit into the grand scheme of things, I know that that is the million-dollar question鈥擨 will call it that, rather than the impossible question. The finance side is interesting. If you want to know what is going to happen with regard to an event, you ask a bookie; to find out what is going to be successful, you ask the banking sector, because they are looking to what will work. With large-scale innovations such as hydrogen, what confidence can you have that it is going to play a major role? Where do progress on that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 15 March 2023

Jamie Halcro Johnston

That is very helpful.

This question is not particularly related to the inquiry, but I want to ask it. Obviously, we have Scottish Enterprise in today. How are you engaging on projects with Highlands and Islands Enterprise, which is my local enterprise board? Are there specific areas that you are looking at? That question is for you, David.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 15 March 2023

Jamie Halcro Johnston

That is very helpful. In previous inquiries, we have thought about the move from smaller businesses out of Business Gateway into Highlands and Islands Enterprise not always being so good, so it is encouraging to hear that that is happening.

That is all from me. Thank you very much indeed for your information.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 15 March 2023

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Thanks for that, David. Is work being done to develop that kind of idea?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 15 March 2023

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Good morning to the panel. I am sorry that I cannot be there in person to speak to you. It has been very interesting. I will direct my questions to the Scottish National Investment Bank. I will leave it to Mark and David to decide who is best to answer.

We have heard a lot about hydrogen during this inquiry and previously in evidence that we have taken in other areas. I am very keen to learn about where you feel that that sector will play its role. There seems to be a lack of understanding about what that physically means, which sectors hydrogen will play a role in and how it will be delivered and contracted. How does SNIB see that? How are you supporting the infrastructure side of hydrogen?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 15 March 2023

Jamie Halcro Johnston

That is very helpful, Mark. Thank you for that. Honesty is very welcome. What I am getting from some of the discussion is that, although the idea of using some of the power that we generate to create hydrogen is fantastic, when it comes to practical use, the vision may not be there.

You talked about demand, and identifying where the demand will be. Are you able to say where that work is happening? You say that it needs to happen. Do you know where it is happening, or are you perhaps waiting to step in if you see opportunities to provide support?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Jamie Halcro Johnston

The point that I was making was about whether the infrastructure that we have at the moment is upscalable, or is there a need to consider a longer-term plan? If we want to be in this market, we must invest in new sites that are suitable for the future.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I saw the work being done at the Lerwick Port Authority.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Jamie Halcro Johnston

It is a brief question, convener. I could come in on the issue of hydrogen, but I will not do so, as we will probably be covering it a bit more later.

I have a question for Dominic Pritchard on infrastructure. Is there a slightly uncomfortable question that should be asked here? Are some of the facilities that we have鈥擨 am thinking of the plant in Machrihanish, which was previously Vestas鈥攕imply not suitable for the level of work that we need to be doing? I think that someone talked about eight jackets. During the North Sea oil and gas boom, there was a lot of investment in sites, particularly in my Highlands and Islands region, some of which are still available. Are some of the sites that we have鈥攕ay, at Methil鈥攔eally suitable for what we are doing, or do we need almost to relook at the issue and investigate where we can invest and essentially build factories?