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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 August 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Have you had any conversations with it at all?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland鈥檚 Finances

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I certainly agree about housing, but, across the region that I represent, the picture of what is available is still very mixed. I agree that it is about building high-quality housing, which will reduce some of the costs for people.

My last question is about the Scottish Fiscal Commission鈥檚 projections on funding. It is looking at funding increasing from 拢54 billion in 2027-28 to 拢177 billion, with the block grant increasing considerably as part of that. Do you recognise that? How can you make sure that, where new taxes are being delivered, they work to complement that increase in the block grant?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland鈥檚 Finances

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I am conscious of time, so I will just ask: is it the case that you are not ruling out further payments to Ferguson鈥檚 due to further increases in costs?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland鈥檚 Finances

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Focus on the question I asked about your area of responsibility.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland鈥檚 Finances

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Okay. Can I look to the longer term? National Records of Scotland projected that Scotland鈥檚 population will fall by 400,000 over the next 50 years. A fiscal sustainability report by the SFC showed that the proportion of Scots aged over 65 is expected to increase from 22 per cent in 2026-27 to 31 per cent by 2072-73. Obviously, that will impact on demand for public services. It will also impact on participation rates, productivity and labour supply. What expectations do you have? Do you accept those projections from the Scottish Fiscal Commission? What expectations do you have of how that will impact spending and tax?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland鈥檚 Finances

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Good morning to the cabinet secretary and her colleagues.

On the subject of Caledonian Maritime Assets Ltd and the boats at Ferguson鈥檚, you said that Ferguson鈥檚 was asked to constrain costs and to get the boats built as quickly as possible. Clearly, it has failed to do that. We have talked about value for money; clearly, the boats have not been value for money. There is an approach going forward, and it will be interesting to see the responses to that. You talked about the impacts of inflation. Inflation in Turkey has been at over 80 per cent and is currently over 61 per cent, yet it looks like the yard in Turkey will deliver boats on time and on budget before the boats that are being built at Ferguson鈥檚.

Neil Gray said that there is not a blank cheque for those boats. However, the simple fact is that there is likely to be a blank cheque because there is so much political capital invested in the boats, in CMAL and in Ferguson鈥檚 yard that it will never be a case of enough is enough. You will keep finding the money to make sure that the boats are delivered.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland鈥檚 Finances

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Ferguson鈥檚 should have been finished well before now, before the issues with inflation arose.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland鈥檚 Finances

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I recognise that providing for an ageing population is an important part of it. One projection from the Scottish Fiscal Commission is depopulation, particularly in rural areas and in the Highlands and Islands. In projections to 2043-44, all Highlands and Islands council areas will see their populations fall. That is a mid-term approach, but there are already concerns. There has been a lack of investment in infrastructure such as the A9 and ferries, and people feel very distant from services. If you want a population to stay in rural areas, you need maternity services. We have had a number of debates recently in the Parliament about the need to provide such things. How can you, over the next few years, reverse the feeling among people鈥攃ertainly those in our remote areas such as the Highlands and Islands鈥攖hat services are further away from them than they were previously?

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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland鈥檚 Finances

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Jamie Halcro Johnston

May I quickly ask a question on that point? When you talk about net inward migration, who are those people? Are they over the age of 65? How are they made up?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Have there been discussions about the need to find new ways of generating revenue for the scheme?