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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 June 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

So, the money would still have to come out but, in theory, the Scottish Government could deliver the winter fuel payment as it currently is to the people whom it currently goes to—or would have gone to—but there would have to be reconciliation in two years, or within the two years.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

On the spending commitment, I think that the position is that the Scottish Government cannot overspend its budget, but can overcommit its budget, to some extent. There are a number of areas that we can look at—social security is one of them. You said that the gap between income from the block grant and spending is, essentially, baked in. That could lead to serious issues, especially if the gap continues to grow. Even its just continuing to sit at the current level could have serious implications for budgets in the future because, as you said, that will be baked in—every single year we will have to find that additional money.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 25 June 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Good morning, Jeremy. On the points that you have just made, I was contacted by constituents about local roads in their area that were not suitable and were preventing them from leaving their homes, because of their limited mobility. I contacted the council and, remarkably, the council went out and sorted the situation. As you have been in many cases, I was the advocate, and I got that situation sorted out. Do you hope that a commissioner would deal with larger, wider and more general issues, and that we would still be the advocates on the smaller level? Large charities already come together on issues such as shared surfaces, so why would the suggested approach be a more effective way of dealing with those larger issues?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 25 June 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I do not want to put words into anyone’s mouth, but when we were talking about staff salaries earlier, Liz Anderson suggested, almost, that this was standard and that this would be the number of staff that people thought would be needed. What roles would those staff play?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 25 June 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

In earlier discussions or exchanges, you talked about the number of new commissioners that have been suggested or which might be taken forward. However, there are concerns about how they will deliver. How will you measure outcomes in that respect? Will there be a process by which, say, the disability commissioner will say in a report at the end of each year, “This is what we have achieved, and this is how we have made things better”? Moreover, how do you think things will have changed by the end of the commissioner’s eight-year term?

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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 25 June 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Should measurable outcomes be included in the bill? Should those be very clear before the bill is passed? As I have said, that has been a concern with other pieces of legislation.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 25 June 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Would you expect them to come from the charity sector?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 25 June 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I have a final quick question—there was not really any order to my questions as I scribbled things down. You talked about the relationship between charities and others. Do you have a concern that, unless the disability commissioner takes forward an issue, that issue might be ignored by the Government?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 25 June 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I get your earlier point about taking a more holistic approach, but a lot of very good third sector organisations that are obviously specialists in their areas are already working together, as we have said, and they will be far better resourced to do that work than this role will be. We are talking about a disability commissioner with only four staff, whose roles are still to be determined; I imagine that there will be a communications person in there to get messages out, as well as an office administrator, but that starts to reduce the number of people doing direct advocacy and investigation. How will they be able to deliver more than far better resourced third sector organisations?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 25 June 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

We heard from a number of people who gave evidence in previous sessions on the commissioner landscape that one of the plus points would be if commissioners did their job in making things better, but no commissioner seems to be anywhere close to being able to, on the advocacy side, say, “That’s me done. I’ve achieved everything, so we can move on.” Outcomes are key, and our concern is that, after proposals are made and commissioners are put in place, they are not able to measure outcomes and what they have achieved. That is a real concern.