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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 December 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

UEFA European Championship (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I will come back on that question at the end, convener.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

UEFA European Championship (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

The minister said that there is no loss to be considered, but we do not know that. If a business is moved away from a city centre location to an alternative location, for example, that alternative location might not be as beneficial to that business as its existing location. An alternative site is not necessarily a site that will allow the business to do the same amount of business that it would have done, even if there are large numbers of people.

Given that some of the fan zones will have other competition in prime locations, I am afraid that I do not accept that the guarantees that the alternative locations—

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

UEFA European Championship (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I applaud Mr Adam for getting St Mirren into the conversation so early. His comment about the street trader is very much to the point. A mobile street trader can go where they think the business will be, but this is a restriction on being able to go where the business is.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

UEFA European Championship (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I recognise that, but I am sure that Mr Adam will also accept that not every part of Glasgow will be as busy as others. That is our concern.

I will pick up on some of the other points. Mr Brown said that it is take it or leave it. That is the problem—it should not be. The point of our scrutiny of the bill is to make sure that we look out for people’s interests. We all accept that the event will be fantastic and that it will bring many opportunities, but we also have to look at those who are impacted, if not losing out.

I appreciate all the points that have been made. As I said, I am happy to work with the minister and have further conversations on the point. We need to look at the issue in more detail and, if the minister is happy to meet me—

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

UEFA European Championship (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

On the point about registering, is there a concern that some organisations might fall foul of the provision because they are not aware that they have to register? What information will the Government provide on that? Will any advice or guidance be given to ensure that organisations fall within the law?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

UEFA European Championship (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Mr Harvie makes an important point. Obviously, there will be benefits to the city and to many businesses in the city, but our concern is with the specific sites that certain traders have been operating from for a considerable time. They will not benefit to the same extent—indeed, they might not benefit at all—if they lose those sites. Overall, there will, of course, be benefits to the city and to many businesses, but the concern is that certain traders might lose out because of the approach, despite all the tourists, visitors and football fans coming in.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

UEFA European Championship (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Just to respond to Mr Harvie’s comments, I am sure that Stephen Kerr, wherever he is, will be as alarmed as you are by the near consensus. I take your points on board, and I am sure that Mr Kerr would, too. As has been the theme, I am sure that he would be happy to work further with the minister on the matter, because there does seem to be some agreement in that area.

I also recognise your concerns about my amendment 9. However, as such situations often involve commercial interest, the use of force has to be reasonable. I am not sure that that issue is covered in the bill, which is why, following consultation with others, I lodged that amendment. I am happy to include your point in conversations with the minister, if he is happy to have those conversations in relation to both of those amendments.

Amendment 8, by agreement, withdrawn.

Section 22 agreed to.

Section 23 agreed to.

Section 24—Use of reasonable force

Amendment 9 not moved.

Section 24 agreed to.

Sections 25 to 29 agreed to.

Schedule 4 agreed to.

Sections 30 to 34 agreed to.

After section 34

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

UEFA European Championship (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

As I said, I am speaking to the amendments on behalf of Stephen Kerr. Mr Kerr, Mr Whittle and I met the minister to discuss the issue, and I think that Mr Kerr would be happy to have further discussions. On that basis, I seek to withdraw amendment 3.

Amendment 3, by agreement, withdrawn.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

UEFA European Championship (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Yes.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

UEFA European Championship (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Of course.