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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 24 June 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Finlay Carson

I have one final question before I ask Jackie Baillie to come back in. The committee has concerns, and I feel as though I am almost being held to ransom here, because we have to make a decision. This is not the first time that the committee has been in the position of being told that we have to do something with an SSI, or that there is a cliff edge, or that there will be a disaster, while we still have concerns about some parts of the instrument in question.

Is there any potential for you to continue looking at the evidence provided by the constituent whom Jackie Bailie represents and to lodge an amendment to the SSI if the data suggests a different grading from the current one? The committee could consider that later, without adverse implications for the Annan or other rivers. Is that a possibility?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Finlay Carson

Before we move away from agriculture funding, I want to go back to a comment that you made in response to Emma Harper. You seek a multiyear funding commitment from the UK Government, which, by its very nature, would suggest that a ring-fenced allocation of that funding would be in place for the rural portfolio. How would that ring-fenced money be calculated? Would it be on the basis of a percentage of the spend on agriculture and rural affairs south of the border and, therefore, in some way connected to rural policy there? How would you negotiate what a ring-fenced settlement might look like?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Finlay Carson

Thank you. We will now move on to our final theme—theme 5—which is on the islands.

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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Finlay Carson

Thank you, cabinet secretary. I think that I speak for the committee when I say that we have a strong desire to do everything possible to protect what we regard as an iconic species. However, there is an annual debate about the regulations and, although we know that they are in place to protect salmon, there are always arguments about how data is collected and analysed. Are you comfortable that, unlike maybe five or six years ago, when there were real concerns about the methodology, we are getting the modelling and the data collection right to ensure that the river gradings are accurate?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Finlay Carson

I have another question, which is really for the cabinet secretary. Where does protection of wild salmon come on your list of priorities? I ask that in the light of Tim Eagle’s point that only one of 42 recommendations from a report that has been in place for some time has been completed. I am looking at correspondence that we had in 2020, in which stakeholders expressed disappointment in the progress. Are you confident that we are making enough progress? Is the issue a high enough priority? Are we putting enough effort and resources into protecting our wild salmon?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Finlay Carson

Thank you. Do you wish to press or withdraw the motion?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Finlay Carson

That completes consideration of the instrument. I suspend the meeting until 10:40 to allow for a changeover of witnesses.

10:27 Meeting suspended.  

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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Finlay Carson

I am still concerned about the fact that you continue to talk about ring-fenced funding, because the Scottish Government is now totally responsible for budget allocation. No longer can it say that its rural funding is dependent on ring-fenced money coming from Westminster. We have seen a record increase in the block grant; indeed, I think that only once since devolution has the block grant decreased in real terms. The question remains: we are going to have a multiyear rural support plan, but is it not the case that the only way that you can expect anybody to have any confidence in that plan is by having multiyear funding?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Finlay Carson

I call Tim Eagle, with our next questions.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Finlay Carson

Cabinet secretary, although you do not have overall responsibility for NatureScot, you must appreciate that, through its licensing functions, distribution of funds and, as you have touched on, peatland and nature restoration, as well as planning and advisory roles, NatureScot is responsible for areas that affect your portfolio in sectors such as aquaculture and forestry. Therefore, NatureScot’s ability to perform will have a significant impact on your portfolio.

Given that NatureScot has had a 12 per cent cut in cash terms, or a 15 per cent cut in real terms, what discussions do you have about that with your counterpart, the Acting Cabinet Secretary for Net Zero and Energy? Obviously, that cut will have a massive impact on the ability to deliver on your ambitions.