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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 August 2025
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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Climate and Nature Emergencies

Meeting date: 17 November 2021

Finlay Carson

Welcome back, everyone. I welcome our second panel, who will be discussing the terrestrial environment. We have with us Dr Helaina Black, honorary associate, and Professor Rob Brooker, head of ecological sciences, both at the James Hutton Institute; Professor Marc Metzger, chair in environment and society at the University of Edinburgh; and Professor Pete Smith, chair in plant and soil science at the University of Aberdeen.

I will kick off with a statement:

“For terrestrial and freshwater ecosystems, land-use change has had the largest relative negative impact on nature since 1970, followed by the direct exploitation, in particular overexploitation, of animals, plants and other organisms mainly via harvesting, logging, hunting and fishing.â€

Is that level of pressure the same in Scotland as it is globally? Do those global impacts affect Scotland in different ways? I ask Professor Brooker to kick off.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Climate and Nature Emergencies

Meeting date: 17 November 2021

Finlay Carson

We are short of time. I will hand over to Marc Metzger, who has indicated that he wishes to respond.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Climate and Nature Emergencies

Meeting date: 17 November 2021

Finlay Carson

That is fascinating. I am about to move on, because I am at risk of hogging the whole session. You talked about changes in growth. Do warmer waters increase growth rates or, because cod are cold-water metabolising fish, if you like, do they slow them down? Do warmer waters have the opposite effect to what would be our normal thinking, which is that warm water increases growth?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Climate and Nature Emergencies

Meeting date: 17 November 2021

Finlay Carson

Last but not least, I call Bill Austin.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 November 2021

Finlay Carson

What consultation did you have with egg packaging and wholesale organisations to look at the pros and cons of the instrument? Were there any adverse impacts of carrying out the inspections at a wholesaler’s premises or wherever, rather than at a border post?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Climate and Nature Emergencies

Meeting date: 17 November 2021

Finlay Carson

I have a question to close our discussion on this theme. Regional marine planning areas can play a big part, and we see some great examples of that up in Shetland. However, part of that is about getting the stakeholders round the table to ensure that we have sustainable fisheries. Dr Marshall, are inshore fisheries groups well enough resourced to ensure that we get the best outcomes for marine protection, but also sustainable fisheries?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Climate and Nature Emergencies

Meeting date: 17 November 2021

Finlay Carson

Finally, on that question, I will bring in Professor Pete Smith.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Climate and Nature Emergencies

Meeting date: 17 November 2021

Finlay Carson

I sometimes feel that, with a lot of the species loss that takes place in Scotland, the process does not happen right in front of our noses. For example, we do not notice that sand eel and other feedstocks are moving further north, and the general public are not aware that cod are getting closer to the Arctic circle.

Professor Fernandes, can you give us an idea of what is happening to our fisheries? As that takes place below the surface of the sea, we obviously cannot see what is happening. How is climate change affecting our fisheries in Scotland?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Climate and Nature Emergencies

Meeting date: 17 November 2021

Finlay Carson

If you could bear with us, we will try to improve the sound quality.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Animal Welfare (Kept Animals) Bill

Meeting date: 17 November 2021

Finlay Carson

Good morning, and welcome to the 11th meeting in session 6 of the Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee. I remind members who are using electronic devices to switch them to silent mode.

Our first item of business is consideration of the legislative consent memorandum for the Animal Welfare (Kept Animals) Bill. I refer members to papers 1 and 2. I welcome Mairi Gougeon, the Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs and Islands, and her officials, who are not joining us remotely but who are certainly remote in that they are at the back of the committee room. I welcome Andrew Voas, the veterinary head of animal welfare, and Keith White, a solicitor, from the Scottish Government. I invite the cabinet secretary to make an opening statement.