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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 August 2025
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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

United Kingdom Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Finlay Carson

The reason for the letter is, once again, to highlight the committee鈥檚 concern that we will have no opportunity to look at the proposed SI before it is laid, on 1 January.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

United Kingdom Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Finlay Carson

I absolutely take that on board.

That concludes the public part of today鈥檚 business.

10:21 Meeting continued in private until 11:06.  

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

United Kingdom Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Finlay Carson

We certainly can do that. If it would help, we can also write to the UK Government with the same question. Ultimately, however, the Scottish Government notified us for us to consent to it giving consent to the UK instrument. That is my understanding. However, we can certainly write to the UK Government if that would help.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

United Kingdom Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Finlay Carson

If you look at page 7 of our papers, that gives you the details. It is the SI that has been laid鈥攊t is the final draft, if you like.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

United Kingdom Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Finlay Carson

Yes. This agenda item is about approving the notification that is referred to in paper 2.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

United Kingdom Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Finlay Carson

Are there any further comments?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

United Kingdom Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Finlay Carson

Yes. Go ahead.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

United Kingdom Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Finlay Carson

Good morning, and welcome to the 15th meeting in 2021 of the Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee. Before we begin, I remind committee members who are using electronic devices to switch them to silent.

Our first item of business was to have been consideration of two notifications from Scottish ministers for consent to two United Kingdom statutory instruments. However, the cabinet secretary has written to the committee to confirm that the Scottish Government has withdrawn the notification for the Official Controls (Extension of Transitional Periods) (Amendment) (No 2) Regulations 2021, as it now intends to make provision via a Scottish statutory instrument. The clerks circulated the letter to members on its receipt. Members will note that the SSI will need to come into effect by 1 January.

As no member has any comments on the withdrawal of that statutory instrument, we have only one notification to consider today, which is for the Approved Country Lists (Animals and Animal Products) (Amendment) (No 2) Regulations 2021. I refer members to papers 1 and 2, which are on pages 3 to 14 of our papers pack.

Under the protocol between the Scottish Parliament and the Scottish Government, the consent notification has been categorised as type 1, meaning that the Scottish Parliament鈥檚 agreement is sought before the Scottish Government gives consent to the UK Government鈥檚 laying the instruments. Members will note that the clerks sought further information from officials in advance of today鈥檚 meeting, and that information has been circulated to members.

In our response to the Scottish Government, I suggest that the committee should ask it to clarify whether the trade agreements with Ukraine and Australia specify a timeframe within which changes to import restrictions must be made, as is set out in paragraph 31 on page 12.

The Scottish Parliament has not been given the full 28-day scrutiny period in which to consider the notification. The Scottish Government claims that the SI must be made quickly in order not to impact on the UK鈥檚 trade relations with Australia and the Ukraine. The notification does not, however, make clear how a delay of a few weeks to allow the appropriate parliamentary scrutiny of the regulations would negatively impact on trade relations. I would like to put on the record my strong concerns about the lack of time available for meaningful parliamentary scrutiny in relation to the instrument. On this occasion, the terms of the protocol have not been met.

Does any member have any comments on the consent notification for the SI?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

United Kingdom Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Finlay Carson

The notification was sent to the Scottish Parliament on 7 December, so we have been given less than the 28 days. Absolutely, we have not had enough time, and we are not sure why there is such urgency. We are asking for clarification about why we cannot have an extension for a few days to allow us to have the full 28 days. We want to know what the impact of doing that would be.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

United Kingdom Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Finlay Carson

Jim, could you put an R in the chat box to request to speak?