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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 23 June 2025
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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Finlay Carson

There will be a division. As we are meeting in hybrid format, I ask members who are attending virtually to vote via the chat function by putting yes, no or abstain and members who are in the committee room to vote by raising their hands.

For

Carson, Finlay (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con)
Hamilton, Rachael (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con)

Against

Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)
Allan, Alasdair (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP)
Burgess, Ariane (Highlands and Islands) (Green)
Fairlie, Jim (Perthshire South and Kinross-shire)(SNP)
Minto, Jenni (SNP) (Argyll and Bute) (SNP)

Abstentions

Villalba, Mercedes (North East Scotland) (Lab)
Wishart, Beatrice (Shetland Islands) (LD)

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Finlay Carson

The result of the division is: For 2, Against 5, Abstentions 2.

Motion disagreed to.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Finlay Carson

Under item 4, I ask whether any member has any comment on the Sea Fish (Prohibition on Fishing) (Firth of Clyde) (No 2) Order 2022. Please raise your hand or type R in the chat box if you are participating remotely.

Committee paper 2 sets out options for our following up the instrument, including in relation to the joint fisheries statement, which we will consider on 23 March, any related future inquiry work and the instrument for next year鈥檚 fishing ban, when it is laid. Do members agree to follow up the issues that have been raised in the instrument in those future areas of our work programme?

Members indicated agreement.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Finlay Carson

Item 5 is consideration of the Ivory Prohibitions (Civil Sanctions) Regulations 2022.? I refer members to committee paper 3.?

Under the protocol between the Scottish Parliament and the Scottish Government, the consent notification has been categorised as type 1, meaning that the Scottish Parliament鈥檚 agreement is sought before the Scottish Government gives consent to the United Kingdom Government making secondary legislation in areas of devolved competence.

Does any member have any comments on the consent notification? Please raise your hand or type R in the chat box if you are participating remotely.

I see that no member wishes to comment.

Is the committee content that the provisions set out in the notification should be included in the proposed UK SI? Please raise your hand or type N in the chat box if you do not agree; otherwise I will presume that members are content.

As no member objects, that is agreed.

That concludes our business in public, and we now move into private session.

11:27 Meeting continued in private until 12:25.  

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Finlay Carson

I am confused. There were no egg counts, so how does the evidence suggest that such an intervention will help? I will put that on the record and move on.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Finlay Carson

Rachael Hamilton has a supplementary question.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Finlay Carson

On that line of questioning, one cod can produce between a million and 2 million eggs, and you need only two of those eggs to survive to adulthood in order to sustain the population. Is the impact of noise or the potential impact of a hand diver or creels in any way significant with regard to sustainability? We heard that the fish still generally spawn鈥攖he issue is the mortality after the eggs have hatched. Is disturbance of any significance at all to spawning?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Finlay Carson

Cabinet secretary, you told us that the measure might increase stocks. Rachael Hamilton was referring to the fishermen that are currently in the Clyde. Are you talking about an increased stock of scallops or prawns? You said that there would be a benefit from an increase in stock. How will that benefit Clyde fishermen?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Finlay Carson

In what way? What fishing opportunities? I am confused.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Finlay Carson

You said that the closure would bring more opportunities. What additional opportunities will there be for creel fishermen or scallop fishermen after the closure?