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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 27 June 2025
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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Finlay Carson

I do not want to set up a battle between RSPB Scotland and anybody else, but are you suggesting that, although your aim is to protect birds, you are not actually protecting birds as much as you could, because you have taken an ethical stance on predator control, which we heard earlier in the meeting is not necessarily the best or most humane way to control foxes? Does your position mean that you are not protecting birds as well as you otherwise might?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Finlay Carson

I am sorry鈥擨 do not mean to be rude鈥攂ut we need to focus on hunting with dogs. It is not just about people who are out walking their dogs. We need to be really careful. We could stray into a whole range of other matters. The question is very much about exceptions to the two-dog limit.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Finlay Carson

We move to section 8, which is on licensing. I call Jenni Minto.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Finlay Carson

Again, I am very aware of time, because we have only another seven minutes at most.

I have a very quick question, which will be directed to Ross and not to Duncan, because the RSPB does not use dogs for control. With regard to situations in which two dogs might be necessary for the purpose of environmental benefit, we have heard about exceptions, but it appears that there are few situations in which a licence will not be required, because there are few situations in which two dogs will be the most humane and animal welfare-minded way to flush foxes. There really are not exceptions. In my opinion, the licence is probably wrong, because we have heard that, in almost every situation in which dogs could be used, that will be more than two dogs. What are your thoughts on the two-dog limit and the licensing, which is for exceptions to that limit?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Finlay Carson

We will move on to sections 1 and 2, which cover offences.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Finlay Carson

Rachael Hamilton has a supplementary question.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Finlay Carson

Penny Middleton indicated that she would like to come in.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Finlay Carson

Does Ian Duncan Millar want to come in?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Finlay Carson

We now have questions from Jim Fairlie and a supplementary question from Ariane Burgess.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Finlay Carson

Perhaps Jake Swindells is best placed to answer that.