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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 July 2025
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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Finlay Carson

We will move on to enforcement and loopholes.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Finlay Carson

Okay.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

United Kingdom Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Finlay Carson

Our next item of business is consideration of a consent notification relating to a UK statutory instrument. As members have no comments on the notification, are we content to agree with the Scottish Government’s decision to consent to the provisions that are set out in the notification being included in UK rather than Scottish subordinate legislation?

Members indicated agreement.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Finlay Carson

That is not what you suggested in response to Mercedes Villalba. You suggested that a driven shoot would come under the bill in a different way from a rough shoot. Maybe I misunderstood.

10:45  

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Finlay Carson

That flies in the face of what the minister has said. If there are four people with eight dogs, does that mean that each of the four guns must shoot only the animals that two dogs have flushed? There could be eight dogs with four handlers and two shooters. Does that make it illegal? From what you have suggested, it would. If that is the case, that would make rough shooting illegal because that is what happens in most cases.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Finlay Carson

It is my understanding that the commission will come to a decision by next February. Initially, I was disappointed with the lack of progress by the commission, given that we had written on two occasions to get a response. However, the response might well give us reassurance that it is taking the issue seriously and will consider all the options and consequences of an outright ban or a licensing scheme. I think that waiting until February would certainly give us the information that we need to take the matter further.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Finlay Carson

Good morning, and welcome to the 30th meeting in 2022 of the Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee. I remind members who are using electronic devices to switch them to silent.

Our first item of business is an evidence session with the Scottish Government bill team on the Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill. I welcome: Hugh Dignon, head of the wildlife and flood management unit; Leia Fitzgerald, bill team leader; Rebecca Greenan, deputy bill team leader; and Amy Hogarth, solicitor.

We have about 60 minutes in which to ask various questions. I will kick off, starting with Hugh Dignon. What do you understand the meaning of rough shooting to be?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Finlay Carson

There would be no intention for a dog to chase a rabbit, hare or pheasant; it is all about flushing. The purpose of a rough shoot is to shoot and not to have the dogs play any part other than flushing.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Finlay Carson

Yes, that is a comprehensive answer.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Finlay Carson

We have heard from the Scottish Crofters Federation that the impact of any reduction in funding

“would not only be in terms of degradation of the unique environment created and maintained by machair cropping, but also on the economic and mental wellbeing of individual crofters.â€

We must not forget the impact on the wellbeing of the people who farm in those areas. Do you have any confidence that the report will be published and that a way forward will be put in place in time to fund the spring 2023 culls? Back in April, we heard that the culls were fast approaching, and we are now into November. Will the report allow us to look at the pilots and put in place a workable scheme that will address crofters’ concerns?