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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 July 2025
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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Avian Flu in Scotland

Meeting date: 30 November 2022

Finlay Carson

Agenda item 2 is an evidence-taking session on avian flu in Scotland. We have scheduled an hour for this item, and I welcome to the meeting Sheila Voas, the chief veterinary officer, and Alastair Douglas, the head of the animal disease control branch, from the Scottish Government.

Would you like to make an opening statement, Sheila?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 30 November 2022

Finlay Carson

I will bring in Mercedes Villalba.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 30 November 2022

Finlay Carson

Jim Fairlie will lead on topic 2.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

United Kingdom Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 November 2022

Finlay Carson

We will now consider a consent notification relating to a UK statutory instrument. If members have no comments on the notification, are they content with the Scottish Government鈥檚 decision to consent to the provisions set out in the notification being included in UK, rather than Scottish, subordinate legislation?

Members indicated agreement.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Avian Flu in Scotland

Meeting date: 30 November 2022

Finlay Carson

Okay. I call Mercedes Villalba.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Avian Flu in Scotland

Meeting date: 30 November 2022

Finlay Carson

If we started using vaccines, the disease status of the whole of the UK and Northern Ireland would be affected and there would be an impact on exports.

At the risk of going off on a tangent, there is a suggestion that, given the short lifespan of chickens for food production鈥擨 think that the longest is about four months鈥攖here is an opportunity to use gene editing to quickly bring in a type of chicken that is more resistant to avian flu. Have you looked at that?

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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Avian Flu in Scotland

Meeting date: 30 November 2022

Finlay Carson

Okay, so there is an extension to what the period would be if the birds were voluntarily housed.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 30 November 2022

Finlay Carson

Good morning, and welcome to the 32nd meeting in 2022 of the Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee. Before we begin, I remind members who are using electronic devices to switch them to silent.

Item 1 is an evidence session with the Minister for Environment and Land Reform on the Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill. We have one hour scheduled for the session.

I welcome to the meeting M脿iri McAllan, the Minister for Environment and Land Reform; Hugh Dignon, head of the wildlife and flood management unit; Leia Fitzgerald, bill team leader; and Amy Hogarth, solicitor.

I invite the minister to make an opening statement.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 30 November 2022

Finlay Carson

I will kick off by looking at the balance between the impact of the bill on people who undertake legal shooting activities and making sure that there is clarity on enforcement against illegal activities. We all know that animal welfare is a primary reason for and objective of the bill, and we want to make sure that that objective is met. The committee is not aware of any evidence that the welfare of rabbits has ever been a consideration, but we understand that rabbits are included as part of stopping hare coursing.

Since rabbit welfare was never raised prior to the bill being introduced, nor has it been raised since its introduction or in evidence on animal welfare, why can we not include a recklessness element in the bill along with the condition on landowner鈥檚 permission, to satisfy the level of evidence that would be required for a conviction of hare coursing? We heard from DS Telford that such an element would assist greatly when it came to poaching. Why is there not an exclusion for rough shooting, which, as you have said minister, can be clearly identified, to get rid of some of the unintended consequences?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 30 November 2022

Finlay Carson

Given that we are looking specifically at rough shooting, if your understanding of rough shooting is correct, do you know of any circumstances in which a dog would chase and kill a rabbit?