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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 July 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Finlay Carson

Will land where the peat is more than 40cm deep have to be of a certain area before a licence is required? For example, will it have to be half an acre, three acres or whatever? Unless these areas are looked at in detail, is there not a risk that someone could inadvertently not apply for the right licence, because the peat in some areas of their estate is 40cm deep?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Finlay Carson

To know whether it has increased or decreased since 2012 would be helpful, too.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Finlay Carson

Therefore, a straightforward police investigation—if someone phones up to say that there is a dead golden eagle on a certain estate and the police investigate—would be grounds for the regulator to suspend a licence.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Finlay Carson

That is a concern, if there are potentially people who wish to cause disruption to licensing at particular times of the year.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Finlay Carson

Will there be something in the bill to ensure that that is the case, given that there will almost certainly be vexatious claims of raptor persecution? Do we not need safeguards in the bill to avoid that happening? The damage to an estate could be significant, as could the knock-on effect on those who work on the estate and any associated businesses.

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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Finlay Carson

I am concerned that this is a double whammy. For example, if you were to shoot a golden eagle on land that was not designated as grouse moor, the penalty that you would get would be different from what you would get if you had been on a grouse moor. How do the implications of that sit with the European Court of Human Rights?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Finlay Carson

I call Ariane Burgess.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Finlay Carson

Will the code of practice be developed alongside the bill, as evidence comes forward, or will it not be clear what the code of practice will be until after the bill is passed?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Finlay Carson

There is a suggestion that there could be a tougher way to deal with that than a charge of malicious mischief. Perhaps there is a need for a specific crime to be set out in the bill to send the message out that tampering with traps is absolutely unacceptable. Given the response to the call for views, it is clear that it is a significant concern to gamekeepers that traps are being tampered with, so that might be something to consider as an amendment at stage 2—the need for a specific offence rather than relying on other pieces of law. You appear to be suggesting that the law is not sufficient to prosecute those who are tampering with—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Finlay Carson

We will move on to Ariane Burgess.