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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 January 2026
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Finlay Carson

I call Rachael Hamilton to wind up and press or withdraw amendment 85B.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Finlay Carson

On the introduction of new legislation and secondary legislation, it is quite clear that the conveners of committees across the Parliament have concerns about framework bills and the additional workload that committees will have in dealing with the related SSIs. What work or process planning have you done on secondary legislation?

We have seen some bad examples. There is a suite of instruments regarding deer management, but we get to consider only one or two SSIs in isolation although they form a far bigger policy. Have you planned how you will introduce secondary legislation? Will it be grouped so that there are suites or packages of SSIs that deliver on certain policies, or is the committee going to see two years’ worth of SSIs? That would make it very difficult for us to see the big picture. What work have you done on that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Finlay Carson

Okay. Thanks. The next question is from Beatrice Wishart.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Finlay Carson

The question is, that amendment 85C be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Finlay Carson

The result of the division is: For 2, Against 7, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 85C disagreed to.

Amendment 85, by agreement, withdrawn.

Amendment 69 moved—[Jim Fairlie]—and agreed to.

Amendment 86 not moved.

Amendment 173 moved—[Rachael Hamilton].

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Finlay Carson

The code of practice has been promoted as underpinning how the Scottish Government foresees that sustainable and regenerative agriculture will be delivered. On that basis, stakeholders have suggested that it will be ingrained. The intention is that the code of practice will be ingrained in every piece of secondary legislation. That is really important. The code will inform every piece of secondary legislation, which means that it will be prescriptive.

There are concerns about the code, which the Government has said will underpin the future delivery of sustainable and regenerative agriculture. Therefore, it will be absolutely critical. I simply put that out there. Perhaps you could give us an example of what will be in the code and how it will play out when it comes to secondary legislation.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Finlay Carson

The result of the division is: For 2, Against 7, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 173 disagreed to.

Amendment 70 moved—[Jim Fairlie]—and agreed to.

13:15  

Amendment 140 moved—[Rachael Hamilton].

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Finlay Carson

Can you give us an example of how the code would be used? In itself, it has no powers. What is the benefit of having provisions for a code of practice in the bill?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Finlay Carson

You have a financial memorandum, so you must have done work to decide what it is based on. We will have 70 per cent of the funding in basic payments, and we will have tier 2 and tier 3. It is a simple question: do you foresee that the CPD funding will come out of the ÂŁ840 million that you expect to be the budget up until 2028?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Finlay Carson

There will be a division.

For

Carson, Finlay (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con)
Grant, Rhoda (Highlands and Islands) (Lab)
Hamilton, Rachael (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con)
Wishart, Beatrice (Shetland Islands) (LD)

Against

Allan, Alasdair (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP)
Burgess, Ariane (Highlands and Islands) (Green)
Forbes, Kate (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP)
Harper, Emma (South Scotland) (SNP)
Whitham, Elena (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP)