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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 July 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Finlay Carson

Okay. Is it likely that conditionality in some of the examples that you have given will be in the proposed bill, or will it be introduced after the proposed bill has been passed?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Finlay Carson

There are two brief supplementary questions, from Jim Fairlie and Rachael Hamilton.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Finlay Carson

I call Jim Fairlie.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Finlay Carson

We have touched on livestock numbers in Scotland before. There were previously worries that the Scottish Government was going to consider some sort of scheme that would reduce livestock numbers. Will you once again go on the record to say that, when the agriculture bill is introduced, it will protect the livestock numbers that we have and avoid a reduction that might get us closer to the critical mass that would result in a rapid decline of the livestock industry in Scotland?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Finlay Carson

When is ring fenced not ring fenced? If you have taken 拢33 million out of a ring-fenced budget, that money is surely not ring fenced.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Finlay Carson

So, the money is not really ring fenced.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Finlay Carson

It was not spent on that. It was taken out of the agriculture budget and spent on something else.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Finlay Carson

It is not very clear.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Finlay Carson

It was just not in the agriculture budget, even though it was ring fenced.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Finlay Carson

This is really important. You need to have an ask. Are you asking for 拢800 million this year and next year? You talked about multiyear funding. How will you pull together the ask? Is it for 拢800 million or 拢900 million? How will you negotiate that? Will the funding be ring fenced? I need to have that clear in my mind because, when we asked the NFU about the subject, it was not clear. It said that having 拢650 million next year would be fine, more or less, as long as the funding was multiyear.

What are you asking the Treasury for? Do you have to submit a business plan for the agriculture spend that you foresee over the next five to 10 years, which the Treasury has to approve? If so, that would suggest that agriculture was not devolved. What is your ask of the UK Treasury for the next five years?