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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 23 July 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Finlay Carson

I think that we are drifting away from the topic.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Finlay Carson

I echo Rachael Hamilton’s views. It is concerning that the NFUS has itself raised concerns. However, it believes that the proposed agriculture bill will “offer ... adequate provision” in that respect. I have to say that I am not aware of any draft agriculture bill or any provisions in it, but it would appear that the NFUS has had sight of the proposed bill to give it that comfort. It concerns me that we are potentially making a decision without knowing whether a forthcoming bill will mitigate the NFUS’s concerns.

Moreover, the policy note suggests that private intervention will cease to have effect in Scotland for a period of five years but no impact assessment has been made, because the provision is “for a temporary period”. I would have thought that five years is a fairly extended temporary period and that an impact assessment should have been carried out. Five years is a long time, and I am concerned that there is no more detail on that.

We could write to the Government today with those concerns. Are we otherwise content to agree to the instrument?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Finlay Carson

We can, but the instrument will come into force on 1 July.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Finlay Carson

Good morning, and welcome to the 19th meeting in 2023 of the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee. Our first item of business is a round-table session on grouse moor licensing provision in the Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill.

For the record, the committee visited a grouse moor on Monday to see the different practices with regard to trapping and muirburn, which was a huge help in our deliberations.

I welcome to the meeting our first panel of witnesses that will be discussing grouse moor licensing this morning: Robbie Kernahan, director of green economy for NatureScot; Dr Marnie Lovejoy, head of evidence and environmental law for the British Association for Shooting and Conservation; Detective Sergeant David Lynn, national wildlife crime co-ordinator for Police Scotland; Ross MacLeod, head of policy in Scotland for the Game and Wildlife Conservation Trust; Ashley McCann, legal advisor for Scottish Land & Estates; Duncan Orr-Ewing, RSPB Scotland; Max Wiszniewski, campaign manager for Revive; and joining us remotely, Jamie Whittle, member of the rural affairs sub-committee for the Law Society of Scotland.

I beg your pardon—it is Ian Thomson from RSPB Scotland. My apologies, Ian, and welcome to the meeting.

Jamie Whittle, if you wish to add to the conversation, please put an R in the chat box. Everyone else should raise their hand. Witnesses do not need to respond to every question. Given the time constraints, if someone says something that you agree with, just say that rather than going over the answer again.

I will kick off with the first questions, which most witnesses will want to answer. Do you agree that licensing is a proportionate response to the issues that were identified by the Werritty review? Can it resolve concerns about raptor persecution and, if not, what are the alternatives?

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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Finlay Carson

Before I bring Ian Thomson back in, Ariane Burgess has a supplementary question.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Finlay Carson

Rachael Hamilton has a supplementary question.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Finlay Carson

If it is on this point.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Finlay Carson

We will come on to the ECHR a bit later.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Finlay Carson

We will move on to the code of practice.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Finlay Carson

I call Jim Fairlie.