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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 26 July 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Finlay Carson

We will move on to the next section, with a question from Karen Adam.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Finlay Carson

When the committee visited a moor a few weeks ago, we heard that 100 traps had been tampered with. In one case, an individual who thought that a gamekeeper had trapped their cat had actively set about identifying the traps that the gamekeeper had set to try to get him into trouble—only to discover that the cat had just disappeared for a couple of days. That is an example of somebody going out maliciously to get a gamekeeper prosecuted, which is why there is a potential issue with individual identification of traps and their being associated with one gamekeeper.

We certainly heard that a lot of tampering was going on, and I urge you to look at the potential to bring in a specific offence, given the significant penalties that a gamekeeper or an estate can face. After all, losing a licence can put them out of business. The issue is not widely known about. As for the proposal to prosecute on the basis of vandalism or other such crimes, we have heard in evidence that a specific offence would raise awareness of how serious tampering with traps is.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Finlay Carson

We will come on to that issue, because the committee has concerns about the powers that the relevant authorities might have.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Finlay Carson

I think that this question will be difficult for you to answer, minister, but perhaps your officials can step in and help you out. Have any inquiries been done into the IMA with regard to banning the sale of snares? Have you considered the IMA?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Finlay Carson

You will agree that the data is incredibly important, so that we get a real picture of what is happening. Of the 11 recorded crimes in 2021, how many were related to grouse moors and where were they?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Finlay Carson

Will you lodge amendments to remove what seems to have been a bizarre period of one year?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Finlay Carson

We are here to ask you about that. What do you see as a reasonable length? Is it three years? Is it five?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Finlay Carson

I would again point out that the situation is a bit bizarre. We have draft legislation that suggests a period of one year. We have been through most of our stage 1 inquiry and you are sitting in front of us, still looking for ideas about licensing. Surely—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Finlay Carson

I absolutely accept the difficult position that you are in, but there must have been some rationale for a one-year licence.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Finlay Carson

We certainly are.