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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 12 January 2026
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Finlay Carson

Does any member wish to debate the motion?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Finlay Carson

Is the committee content to delegate authority to me to sign off our report on the instrument?

Members indicated agreement.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 24 April 2024

Finlay Carson

Good morning, and welcome to the 10th meeting in 2024 of the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee. We have received apologies from Alasdair Allan MSP, and we welcome back to the committee Karen Adam MSP, who will be attending as a committee substitute. Before we begin, I remind everyone who is using electronic devices to please switch them to silent.

We begin with an evidence session on the Sea Fisheries (Remote Electronic Monitoring and Regulation of Scallop Fishing) (Scotland) Regulations 2024, for which we have approximately 90 minutes.

I welcome to the meeting Elspeth Macdonald, who is the chief executive of the Scottish Fishermen’s Federation, and Helen McLachlan, who is the head of marine policy at RSPB Scotland and who is giving evidence on behalf of the future fisheries alliance. Joining us remotely is Ian Gatt, who is the chief executive of the Scottish Pelagic Fishermen’s Association, and Joe Whitelegg, who is the fisheries control and enforcement manager for Isle of Man Fisheries. Thank you very much for joining us this morning.

I will kick off with a straightforward question. Do you believe that there is a need to introduce mandatory remote electronic monitoring? Is it clear what the benefits are and how REM could improve fisheries management in Scotland?

I ask Elspeth Macdonald to kick off.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 24 April 2024

Finlay Carson

Rachael Hamilton has a supplementary question.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 24 April 2024

Finlay Carson

You talked about the maximum frame rates that the cameras could capture. I know that the tech spec suggests that there should be a minimum of 2 megapixels per frame and a minimum horizontal resolution of 1,920 pixels per frame, as well as infrared capability and a minimum ingress protection rating of IP66. Are you confident that those specifications are sufficient to comply with the legal and policy aims of the Government? Does the REM that is currently on scallop boats comply just now, or are we looking at a whole new REM system being installed on the scallop fleet?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 24 April 2024

Finlay Carson

Does it need to rule it out?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 24 April 2024

Finlay Carson

I think that the timeframe has changed because the Bute house agreement suggests that the legislation should be delivered by the end of the current parliamentary session.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 24 April 2024

Finlay Carson

On the relationship between the Isle of Man fisheries and the Scottish fisheries, there is a long tradition of Scottish boats fishing in Manx waters and vice versa. However, that relationship has not always been harmonious; I know that we had an uncomfortable situation four or five years ago when Scottish boats had to land scallops in Douglas, which caused some tensions. Can you update us on the current working between the Scottish Government or the marine directorate and the Isle of Man fisheries?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 24 April 2024

Finlay Carson

I have a final question before I bring in Rhoda Grant. Scottish boats fish in Isle of Man waters and in French waters, too. What would happen if the Isle of Man decided to diverge from the technology that the Scottish Government had specified and if Europe had a different REM specification? Could you see a situation in which scallop boats in Scotland had three, four or multiple sets of technology in order to deliver data for different reasons to different fisheries control authorities?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 24 April 2024

Finlay Carson

Finally, I seek a yes or no response to this question, although I do not think that I can ask Joe Whitelegg this. I note that the lead-in times for introducing REM have been accelerated by the Bute house agreement, which could leave fishing boats unable to find people to repair their equipment as quickly as they might, meaning that the boats could not go to sea. Should the Scottish Government compensate fishers in the event of that happening?