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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 25 July 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Finlay Carson

Snares now have to have licence numbers on them. In your evidence gathering, have you done research into how many either licensed or illegally set snares are causing an issue? That is important. Are we finding that there is still a high incidence of humane control devices causing animal welfare issues? Do the instances that you have mentioned, which have involved domestic cats and so on, tend to be from snares that have been set illegally?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Finlay Carson

We are in the unfortunate position that, given that the amendments dealing with these issues will be dealt with at stage 2, we will have only a limited time in which to scrutinise the issues. You said that you would look at the potential for a licensing scheme. When should we expect a response on that proposal? Will that be before the committee has to complete its stage 1 report and, ultimately, before the stage 1 debate?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Finlay Carson

I will just press that a little bit more. You suggest that there is evidence of widespread animal welfare issues because of the use of snares. When someone makes a complaint about a snare and that is investigated—I presume that that is what the evidence is based on—the number on the snare will indicate who holds the licence for it. When you report a high level of animal welfare issues, is that as a result of legally set, licensed snares or illegally set snares?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Finlay Carson

Once again, instead of anecdotal comments, it would be good to get a better idea—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Finlay Carson

I am sorry, but we are going to have to move on.

You have talked about the use of snares in very limited circumstances, minister. Can you provide us with information that will give us some proper background on how many foxes are currently controlled using snares and how many are currently shot or controlled using other methods?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Finlay Carson

I question whether using the Parliament’s time to deal with a bill under the legislative process is the best way to highlight or spotlight things—there are other ways to do that, and that is not the reason to introduce bills.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Finlay Carson

I have the utmost respect for any member who introduces a member’s bill, and I take my hat off to Christine Grahame for her attempts—successful and otherwise—with the bills that she has introduced over her time in this place. However, we, as a committee, must recognise resource capacity and prioritisation.

Given your statement and given that the Government’s view is that you already have the powers to address almost everything that Ms Grahame’s bill would address, I get the feeling that you see this as a public awareness exercise. You can already do those things under the existing powers—that is where our concern comes from.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Finlay Carson

It is not about disrespecting Ms Grahame’s bill; it is about seeking a means to an end.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Finlay Carson

Thank you. We have another question from Alasdair Allan.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Finlay Carson

Minister, what is your understanding of the definition of a pet?