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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 23 July 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Finlay Carson

I am sure that that is not something that you have at your fingertips, but there will be a record of how many crime numbers have been given out.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Finlay Carson

I am asking on the back of the police officers saying that there is no such thing as an unofficial investigation. If an investigation triggers a potential suspension, a crime number is—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Finlay Carson

I guess that it is about who undertakes the investigation as well, whether that is NatureScot or—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Finlay Carson

I have a last, technical question. Will the protocol that will need to be in place for the SSPCA and Police Scotland be in place and agreed prior to the bill going through to stage 3? If it is not—if a protocol cannot be agreed—the eventual legislation will still come into force. What happens in that circumstance?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Finlay Carson

That is helpful. At the moment, if we were to agree to pass the bill, the SSPCA would get the additional powers whether or not a protocol was in place. What you have said is really helpful: there may need to be an amendment to suggest that the provisions would not be enacted or enforced until an agreed protocol was in place.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Finlay Carson

But is that your understanding? Have I got that right?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Finlay Carson

Okay.

That is us. Thank you very much for that; I really appreciate it. We may wish to get some more details in a follow-up letter, but we appreciate the time that you have taken this morning.

10:58 Meeting continued in private until 12:22.  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Finlay Carson

The Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 already outlaws setting snares that would cause unnecessary suffering. It is also an offence to set a snare in a position that could cause harm to wild birds or non-target species. How would another piece of legislation make any difference? It is generally understood that it is poachers and people who are intent on breaking the law who use snares incorrectly, and not gamekeepers, who set out specifically to control predators, for example.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Finlay Carson

Thank you very much.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Finlay Carson

There are licence numbers on the snares.