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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 July 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Finlay Carson

No, I am talking about when an animal is alive.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Finlay Carson

Okay. I will bring in Conor Kelly, Ross MacLeod and then Bob Elliot.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Finlay Carson

This is something that has caused the committee quite a few concerns. Last week, the minister said:

“We are looking at a few options, but I am currently minded to make that when something has a crime number.”—[Official Report, Rural Affairs and Islands Committee, 1 November 2023; c 26.]

Can I have the views of Kevin Kelly and David Lynn on that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Finlay Carson

Chief Superintendent Flynn is next.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Finlay Carson

That would be useful.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Finlay Carson

David Lynn has indicated that he wants to come in, then I will bring in Iain Batho.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Finlay Carson

That is where the problem lies. The legislation talks about “an official investigation” and, last week, the minister suggested that that would be launched on production of a crime number. There are still some grey areas in that respect.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Finlay Carson

Welcome back, everyone. Our second round table this morning will focus on the proposed extension of the Scottish SPCA’s powers. We have approximately one hour for questions and discussion.

As with the previous round table, I will start by going round the table. We have Iain Batho from the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service; Chief Inspector Kevin Kelly from the National Wildlife Crime Unit; Ian Thomson from RSPB Scotland; Ross Ewing from Scottish Land & Estates; Detective Sergeant David Lynn from Police Scotland; Susan Davies, who is the review lead on the independent task force on SSPCA powers; and, once again, Chief Superintendent Mike Flynn from the Scottish SPCA.

We will start with questions from Ariane Burgess.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Finlay Carson

Mike Flynn, do you have any comments on the protocol?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Finlay Carson

Last week, I asked the minister whether the legislation that would set out how the SSPCA would work and how its powers would be extended would be enacted prior to a protocol being agreed. She said that that could be provided for as an amendment. I ask Susan Davies what her thoughts are on the enactment of part of the bill if there is no agreement between the SSPCA and Police Scotland.