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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 July 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Finlay Carson

Good morning, and welcome to the 28th meeting in 2023 of the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee.

Before we begin, I remind all members using electronic devices to please turn them to silent.

Our first item of business is a decision on whether we should take the review of evidence heard during our pre-legislative scrutiny of future agriculture policy in private at our next meeting. Do we agree to do so?

Members indicated agreement.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Finlay Carson

I will bring in Penny Middleton next.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Finlay Carson

Conor Kelly wants to comment.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Finlay Carson

This is probably an appropriate point at which to bring in Rachael Hamilton, who has further questions on the protocol that needs to exist between the SSPCA and Police Scotland.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Finlay Carson

That is helpful.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Finlay Carson

We will have very brief last comments from Susan Davies, Ross Ewing and Ian Thomson.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Finlay Carson

I will ask this once again, just for clarity. When someone phones up and says that they have a suspicion that something has happened, does that trigger a crime number? If so, would that be sufficient for NatureScot to suspend or revoke a licence? That is the context in which we are having this discussion.

I am sorry to say that I have forgotten the order of speakers. Is it Kevin Kelly and then Ross Ewing? I see that it is Ross first.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Finlay Carson

My opinion at the moment is that the committee does not have nearly enough information to decide whether we are supportive of the measure. From what we hear, there seems to be a lot of detail that should be part of the bill.

One question that jumps out for me is this: if an SSPCA officer were questioning a potential suspect, would that person have to be cautioned? If they were cautioned, would that become an official investigation that might lead to NatureScot suspending a licence? That is a concern.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Finlay Carson

I would like to bring in Ian Thomson from RSPB Scotland. We often hear about raptors being found on the roadside and so on. What is your involvement in that, and how could increased SSPCA powers lead to more prosecutions?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Finlay Carson

Yes, that is the point. Given the direction of travel that the legislation is taking, if you were to get a call about a live animal but, when you arrived, it was dead, would the power allow you to undertake collection of evidence?