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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 July 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Finlay Carson

I will bring in Tim Bailey briefly.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Finlay Carson

Yes.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Finlay Carson

Can we try to frame our discussion within what is in the bill? Nothing in the bill addresses food security or that it is a public good. Can you frame your responses within what is in the bill or what needs to be in the bill to address your concerns? We are at the business end here and we are legislating for this stuff so, if something is important, we need to know where it comes into the legislative process. That is what we want to look at.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Finlay Carson

Good morning, and welcome to the 33rd meeting in 2023 of the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee. Before we begin, I remind anyone using electronic devices to switch them to silent.

Our first item of business is consideration of an affirmative instrument. I welcome to the meeting Mairi Gougeon, the Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs, Land Reform and Islands, and I invite her to make an opening statement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 12 December 2023

Finlay Carson

The delivery plan does not appear to be costed, and you have touched on an equivalent of a financial memorandum. However, it is very ambitious. It is a bit like the Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill in that it is very ambitious, there are no boundaries to it and we do not know how much it will cost. Do we need to be more pragmatic going forward? Ambition is good, but not if you cannot deliver on your ambitions and if there are targets that cannot possibly be met. There is an argument that climate change targets are far too ambitious and that we need to be more pragmatic. Does this plan need to be more pragmatic to deliver effectively?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 12 December 2023

Finlay Carson

Thank you, convener. First, I should probably declare an interest as a species champion for the native oyster bed. I am in the unique position of being a species champion who can actually eat the species that he is trying to protect, and I enjoy the odd one, I must admit. This morning, we have heard about crowded seas and marine spatial squeeze. We are now seeing a policy squeeze, with crowded ministerial responsibilities. One reason why I am here today is that there is still a fluffy idea of who takes responsibility.

We have discussed marine issues in our committee, particularly the lack of fit-for-purpose data. How much is actually collected properly, and how much is modelled? That is a concern. We saw clearly from the Bute house agreement-driven Clyde cod box debacle, that embarrassing situation in which Marine Scotland officers tried to defend inadequate data in order to change policy, that there are issues there. From the rural affairs point of view, we understand that creating a biodiversity-positive marine environment is of critical importance, but we cannot forget the socioeconomic impact of policies; that is equally important. Arguments are often made without touching on the positive or negative aspects of socioeconomic impact, because they sometimes just do not fit the narrative of the groups or organisations that are trying to promote a particular point of view.

In agriculture, rural land use partnerships bring all the stakeholders together and are supposed to look at landscape-scale policies and the impact that they have across the board. I was surprised that no one touched on regional inshore fisheries groups, which are supposed to be the groups in which fishermen and stakeholders can give their input and comment on policies. Does that suggest that the Government is not serious about engaging with the fishing industry through those regional inshore groups? As far as I can see, they are inadequately funded and not really fit for purpose. Could I have your comments specifically on whether regional inshore fisheries groups have a role in ensuring that we can have a biodiversity plan that works for biodiversity and for fishing communities?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Finlay Carson

It appears to me that there is a lot of ability to use a stick, rather than a carrot, because the bill requires a person

“to undertake particular, or a particular amount of, CPD activities”.

It also refers to

“monitoring and enforcement of any requirement to undertake ... CPD”

and

“appeals against decisions of the Scottish Ministers ... relating to any requirement to undertake CPD”.

There is a lot about using a stick and not very much about what you guys have just mentioned, which is very much about farmers’ desire to undertake training in order to do their job better. The bill appears to be very stick heavy. Is that the right approach?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Finlay Carson

I reassure our witnesses that I have a note of everyone who wants to comment. I will bring in Liz Barron-Majerik next.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Finlay Carson

We will move on with a question from Karen Adam.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Finlay Carson

Are you suggesting that short-term, medium-term and long-term plans should form the basis of the rural support plan?