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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 1 January 2026
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Finlay Carson

That concludes our questions for today. I thank the cabinet secretary, the minister and their officials for attending. We move into private session.

11:28 Meeting continued in private until 11:57.  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Finlay Carson

We will now look at those themes in a bit more detail.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Finlay Carson

We are making good progress. I suggest that we take a 10-minute comfort break before coming back to tackle the big challenge of fisheries.

I suspend the meeting until 10:20.

10:08 Meeting suspended.  

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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Finlay Carson

The next theme is fisheries and Rhoda Grant has the first question.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Finlay Carson

I am not sure that I am clear on exactly what you think the impacts will be of the delayed climate change plan. We will have to have new schemes to support low-carbon beef production, and the suckler beef climate group has reported on those. There will almost certainly be conditionality in the environment aspects of legislation, so there must be an impact on your development of that. If we do not see a climate change plan being laid in November, what is the likely impact on developing agriculture policy?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Finlay Carson

Our next item of business is an evidence session on the Scottish Government’s policy priorities and its programme for government commitments that are relevant to the committee’s remit.

I welcome to the meeting Mairi Gougeon, the Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs, Land Reform and Islands, and Jim Fairlie, the Minister for Agriculture and Connectivity. Joining us from the Scottish Government are George Burgess, the director of agriculture and rural economy; Donald Henderson, the deputy director of the nature division; Malcolm Pentland, the deputy director and lead for marine economy and communities; and Iain Wallace, the head of the operations portfolio at the marine directorate.

We have about two hours for discussion. Before we begin that, I ask the cabinet secretary to make a brief opening statement.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Finlay Carson

Thank you very much, cabinet secretary. We have questions about various themes that touch on the priorities that you have mentioned.

Will you give us an idea of the timing of the crofting bill, when we are likely to see the good food nation plan and when the natural environment bill will be introduced, to give us an indication of what our work programme might look like?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Finlay Carson

We move to a question from Rhoda Grant.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Finlay Carson

We will move on to discuss agricultural support reform, starting with a question from Rachael Hamilton.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Finlay Carson

We are not going to dwell on the budget now, because we will deal with that in future evidence sessions. You said that farmers are still getting their payments and that those have not been cut. However, the Bew review suggested that farmers should be getting an additional £61 million—it said, in effect, that that was the shortfall. Where in the agriculture portfolio is that £61 million not being spent, and where is that having an impact on progress towards your goals?