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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 July 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Finlay Carson

Okay. Thank you very much.

As you know, we have taken evidence on the bill over four months and we undertook pre-legislative scrutiny prior to that. One of the topics for discussion was the selection of the four objectives. What are your reasons for selecting the four objectives that are in the bill and for not including others?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Finlay Carson

I am sure that we will come on to talk about flexibility when we discuss other sections of the bill.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Finlay Carson

Yes.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Finlay Carson

No. It is not my intention to go into the part of the bill on muirburn if we are quick enough to get that far.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Finlay Carson

The final paragraph of the Finance and Public Administration Committee’s letter says that the approach that you are taking

“presents significant challenges for effective scrutiny of cost estimates associated with legislation”,

and it goes on to say that the committee’s concerns in that area are set out in its December 2022 report and correspondence on the national care service. Two committees in Parliament are raising concerns about the lack of detail in the bill and co-design being done after primary legislation has been passed. Is that not something that you take seriously?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Finlay Carson

Rhoda Grant will look at that a little bit more closely.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Finlay Carson

Given that there is a suggestion that the code may not come forward until 2026, the committee would appreciate hearing about early work that has been done and getting an idea of whether elements such as animal welfare and fair pay and work conditions might play a part. It would certainly be helpful to give us an idea of what to expect.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Finlay Carson

That is very helpful, thank you. Last, but not least, I call Elena Whitham.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Finlay Carson

The question is, that amendment 84 be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Finlay Carson

There will be a division.

For

Carson, Finlay (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con)
Grant, Rhoda (Highlands and Islands) (Lab)
Hamilton, Rachael (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con)
Wishart, Beatrice (Shetland Islands) (LD)

Against

Allan, Alasdair (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP)
Burgess, Ariane (Highlands and Islands) (Green)
Forbes, Kate (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP)
Harper, Emma (South Scotland) (SNP)
Whitham, Elena (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP)