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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 July 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Finlay Carson

There was a suggestion that we should try to finish the first session at 1 o’clock, but I am minded to carry on until 1.45 at the latest. We will continue to consider the amendments.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Finlay Carson

We intend to finish at 1.45, which should be before your committee reconvenes. That will also give people time to prepare for questions this afternoon. I will press on. We may finish before 1.45. We indicated that we expected to finish the session by 1 o’clock but, given the progress that we have made, we need to try to push on a little bit. However, I take on board your comments.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Finlay Carson

I am really confused. We know what the status quo is. The committee will have to comment on and, ultimately, amend the bill that is in front of us. The level of the cap that you foresee being in place in the future will be critical to our larger farms and, as we have heard, to some of our smaller producers. When will you make it clear exactly what your position is on capping, top slicing or front loading? We are now at the business end of the bill process. We know where we are at the moment, but we need to know where we will be in two or three years’ time. Surely you can give us some indication of whether it is your intention to extend the capping powers or to retain them at the level that they are at just now.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Finlay Carson

I call Rachael Hamilton to wind up and press or withdraw amendment 85B.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Finlay Carson

On the introduction of new legislation and secondary legislation, it is quite clear that the conveners of committees across the Parliament have concerns about framework bills and the additional workload that committees will have in dealing with the related SSIs. What work or process planning have you done on secondary legislation?

We have seen some bad examples. There is a suite of instruments regarding deer management, but we get to consider only one or two SSIs in isolation although they form a far bigger policy. Have you planned how you will introduce secondary legislation? Will it be grouped so that there are suites or packages of SSIs that deliver on certain policies, or is the committee going to see two years’ worth of SSIs? That would make it very difficult for us to see the big picture. What work have you done on that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Finlay Carson

Okay. Thanks. The next question is from Beatrice Wishart.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Finlay Carson

The question is, that amendment 85C be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Finlay Carson

The result of the division is: For 2, Against 7, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 85C disagreed to.

Amendment 85, by agreement, withdrawn.

Amendment 69 moved—[Jim Fairlie]—and agreed to.

Amendment 86 not moved.

Amendment 173 moved—[Rachael Hamilton].

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Finlay Carson

The code of practice has been promoted as underpinning how the Scottish Government foresees that sustainable and regenerative agriculture will be delivered. On that basis, stakeholders have suggested that it will be ingrained. The intention is that the code of practice will be ingrained in every piece of secondary legislation. That is really important. The code will inform every piece of secondary legislation, which means that it will be prescriptive.

There are concerns about the code, which the Government has said will underpin the future delivery of sustainable and regenerative agriculture. Therefore, it will be absolutely critical. I simply put that out there. Perhaps you could give us an example of what will be in the code and how it will play out when it comes to secondary legislation.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Finlay Carson

The result of the division is: For 2, Against 7, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 173 disagreed to.

Amendment 70 moved—[Jim Fairlie]—and agreed to.

13:15  

Amendment 140 moved—[Rachael Hamilton].