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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 28 December 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Finlay Carson

We talked about the refereeing and NatureScot effectively being able to authorise someone being on the register who does not have the DSC1 qualification. It would be helpful to the committee if we knew that that work was starting now, so that we know what the transition to the new authorisation will be. Would you take that on now, a bit like the code of practice, and start working on it so that the committee and the Parliament can have confidence that we will not fall off a cliff edge?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Finlay Carson

You talk about landscape scale. How will that work with the voluntary arrangement, when you might have people opting in or opting out? Will that increase the number of times that you will have to statutorily, rather than voluntarily, enforce deer numbers? Have you considered that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Finlay Carson

I suppose that what I am trying to get at is that the code of practice will play a critical role. It is almost as though there is a framework bill and the code of practice then puts the meat on the bones. Should that code of practice undergo more scrutiny from the Parliament and not just be left to NatureScot to pull together, whether through co-design or whatever? Does the code of practice need oversight from the Parliament?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Finlay Carson

There might need to be something in secondary legislation that clearly defines what might be in the public interest, given the changing scene and other pieces of legislation, to make sure that stakeholders know what is coming down the road and whether it is proportionate and addresses what the bill is supposed to achieve.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Finlay Carson

Thank you. Did you want to come in, Donald?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Finlay Carson

It might not make a practical difference, but, surely, the legal obligation under a control scheme is quite burdensome. If a voluntary agreement could be reached between NatureScot and a new owner, would that not be more proportionate?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Finlay Carson

In that case, is it not important to have the criteria in the bill, or far more clearly set out? If you can estimate the costs and put something together in the financial memorandum, the information must be fairly robust. If that information was available to stakeholders, it would make far clearer the limitations that they are working within.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Finlay Carson

Was a precedent not set with the Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Act 2024? I believe that work started on the associated code of practice prior to that piece of legislation being passed, so it is not unusual.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Finlay Carson

Thank you. We are a minute over time, which could be viewed as a success, given the number of witnesses today. I thank the witnesses very much for their valued contributions.

That concludes our proceedings in public.

12:31 Meeting continued in private until 12:46.  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Finlay Carson

A reduction in plans is a novel plan, is it not? Will it ever catch on?