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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 May 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Emma Harper

You have touched on finance, funding and resources in relation to making improvements through the inshore fisheries management programme. Will part of that work involve exploring whether you need increased funding to implement the programme or even changes to regional governance?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Emma Harper

It is kind of a no-brainer—if there is a requirement to do more work, to expand work or to implement regional-based approaches, more resources will be required.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Emma Harper

I have a couple of questions about eligibility criteria and the definition of “terminal illness”. I know that a very similar bill is going through the United Kingdom Parliament at the moment and want to explore the language of terminal illness in Scotland and England. You said that someone must be terminally ill and in the end stage of their illness to be eligible. Concerns have been raised that that is not only about people with a cancer diagnosis but might apply to someone who has a terminal illness such as motor neurone disease or Parkinson’s. People also might be unable to recover from chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, end-stage renal failure or cardiovascular disease, which can be really debilitating. Please give us an overview of the definition of “terminal illness” and how that relates to the bill.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Emma Harper

I will pick up on the duty to refer. Let us say that I am a carer looking after somebody who is at the end of their life in their home, and I am a conscientious objector, and the person I am looking after at the end of their life says, “Okay, that is it—I am done. I want to go down the assisted dying pathway.” How do we support the conscientious objector who is a carer to refer on? Do they just keep their mouth shut, or do we require them to refer? Would it be part of secondary guidance, education and legislation to require them to refer, because this is about the human right of choice at the end of life?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Emma Harper

I have a final question. Are the two independent doctors allowed to confer with each other? I do not know whether the bill makes that explicit. Could they be a doctor at the hospital and a doctor in the GP practice, or could they be two GPs in the same practice? What makes them independent? Are they not allowed to confer with each other during the process?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Emma Harper

That is fine—thank you.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Emma Harper

Another issue that has come up is the language around someone being “unable to recover” from a condition versus a condition being “untreatable”. The language needs to be very precise. We have had conversations around the bill’s use of “unable to recover”, where treatment options have been explored, agreed on and then not proceeded with.

Tell me about the use of “unable to recover” rather than “untreatable”. Somebody who has an eating disorder, for instance, might consider that they have no option to recover from that, but that is not the case, which I say as a healthcare practitioner—I am still a nurse. How do we make sure that the language of the bill is definitive in referring to a terminal illness as a condition that someone is “unable to recover” from?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Emma Harper

I think that other members will come to capacity, so I will leave it there.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Emma Harper

I have a quick question regarding palliative care versus the choice of assisted dying. We have heard evidence from other countries that, even though someone may have opted to go through a process of assisted dying, they might still say, “No, I won’t proceed,” and then continue, knowing that they can still choose that, with a palliative care process. Is that your experience from your research?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Emma Harper

I just wanted to clarify that.