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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 28 December 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Rachael Hamilton

I will ask about Libby Anderson’s point on Larsen traps and decoy birds. You said that in the uplands a decoy bird could be in a Larsen trap for up to 24 hours. How is that established in a remote rural area?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Rachael Hamilton

Professor Reid explained the situation pretty well, but I want to get some clarity on the suspension of licences. The bill includes proposed powers for NatureScot to suspend licences even if it is not satisfied, in relation to the civil burden of proof, that an offence has been committed. Of course, there would be an official investigation relating to the person who had been accused of committing an offence. What are your observations on proposed new section 16AA, if you have had an opportunity to look at it? Do the proposals contain a lower evidential bar to suspension than was envisaged in the Werritty report?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Rachael Hamilton

In a previous session, stakeholders said that an appeal could take a long time—up to a year. With regard to your vision of how the legislation should be shaped, should sheriffs have a discretionary power to decide that a penalty imposed by NatureScot should have no effect, pending determination of an appeal?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Rachael Hamilton

Do you think that an investigation should be triggered by a vexatious allegation?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Rachael Hamilton

There is a piece on training—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Rachael Hamilton

Thank you. I think that it was not fully answered. I am trying to establish whether the licensing scheme is too broad brush if traps are to be registered with a unique licence number and gamekeepers or others—a trap could also be used in an urban setting—had to do the training for all of the traps. Should the scheme be designed to recognise and accommodate the needs of operators? That is one question.

My second question is about the agreement on international humane trapping standards, which Libby Anderson mentioned. She mentioned the trapping of stoats in Orkney. We have been told that the standards are very high and that those traps are designed in the way that they are because of the high standards rather than because of the need for operator expertise. How can we use that as an example for a licensing scheme when the spring trap is designed to such high standards?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Rachael Hamilton

Does the panel have any views about whether having individual serial numbers that are related to the operator on each trap is proportionate?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Rachael Hamilton

I will try to keep my question brief. Professor Werritty, has the socioeconomic impact of grouse moor licensing been assessed adequately in this process, bearing in mind that there was no direct or indirect engagement with businesses as part of the business and regulatory impact assessment?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Rachael Hamilton

Another measure that could be looked at or a methodology for working out the size of the population could be the number of operators who have been called out to various institutions, such as hospitals and supermarkets, which has increased. I do not want to cause alarm among the public, but you have indicated that we have a growing problem with rodents. It would be good to get some understanding of how you have come to that conclusion.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Rachael Hamilton

I have a simple question. Is the bill compliant with the European convention on human rights?