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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 27 June 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Minimum Core Obligations

Meeting date: 23 May 2023

Rachael Hamilton

I will pick up on Professor Boyle’s response to my colleague Pam Gosal. There is a conflict between minimum core obligations and rights that are in various articles under UN obligations, such as the right of disabled people to liberty and to live independently in the community, and rights for children and pregnant women.

How does the human rights approach help individuals? I will give an example from my constituency. A young man with learning difficulties has a place at a college but does not have supervised travel or transport to get there. We know that the rights of individuals under such articles are already being breached. In the practical context, how will the proposed approach help that person?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Minimum Core Obligations

Meeting date: 23 May 2023

Rachael Hamilton

As I have been listening, it has dawned on me that we have not considered geographical inequalities or the ability to deliver within public bodies. What you are saying is that it is definitely not a silver bullet and we have not explored this area enough but there could be inconsistencies in outcomes across Scotland because of that.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Rachael Hamilton

That is helpful, but I would like to press you on the issue of isolation. It is helpful that there is a definition, but how do you actually prove that a farmer has not isolated? You said that, because of the salvage value and the market value, compensation will not be reduced by 95 per cent. What if we have a significant outbreak? What could happen to these regulations to ensure that farmers are supported rather than penalised for something that is beyond their control?

09:15  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Rachael Hamilton

So, if 10,000 cattle were moving into Scotland every year, how many of those would come from high-risk areas?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Rachael Hamilton

I want to make another point. As you quite rightly said, there were not a huge number of responses to the consultation, but those who contributed were significant in the industry. There was no conclusive support for the proposal: 30 per cent supported it, 30 per cent did not support it and 30 per cent did not respond. From the Government’s point of view, this particular part of the order has not been conclusive. It is basically a policy that you have decided on.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Rachael Hamilton

As a personal comment, we need to make sure that we support farmers across the United Kingdom, because if a farm has a breakdown, it can have a devasting impact on not only the family’s mental health but their finances. Farmers do not ask for bovine TB in their herd. It is an unintended consequence of purchasing whatever it might be or, indeed, something that has not been identified through testing. It is very important to recognise that, although it is great that Scotland has TB-free status, it is happening across our United Kingdom, where the supply chain is integral to Scotland’s success.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Rachael Hamilton

I have some scattergun questions for you. Going back to the measures that are currently in place, I presume that anyone who breaks TB rules has their farm payment reconsidered and is potentially subject to a fine. Why are those measures, which are currently there, not sufficient?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Rachael Hamilton

The BCVA has said that it needs

“more detail regarding the ability to resource and carry out this approach.â€

I presume that you are aware of that.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Rachael Hamilton

What would constitute a herd that was not subject to pre- or post-movement checks? I do not mean that in a ridiculous way. Why would cattle not have to go through those checks?

09:45  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Rachael Hamilton

So, Scotland is a low-incidence area.