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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 26 June 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Rachael Hamilton

Perhaps I can give you an example of individuals’ concerns. Yesterday, I spoke to a group from the islands—we know how important livestock farming and crofting are there, particularly in the less favoured areas. They are hearing suggestions that, instead of the livestock farming that is so important to their livelihoods being considered, trees are going to be planted in places such as Westray, where they cannot grow. The Government therefore needs to be very clear in its communications about the tiers and the sustainability of the future for farmers and crofters.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Rachael Hamilton

I have a quick point on that. During our evidence sessions, we have heard from various members of the ARIOB and other stakeholders that it is very difficult to establish the baseline so that they can work out what the outcome is for environmental benefit. I have made the point in the chamber that it is particularly difficult because farmers have already spent thousands on thousands of pounds undertaking measures, including soil testing. They have been spending and investing their own money, because they know that doing so reduces input costs and increases productivity and efficiency. How will the Government ensure that the individuals who have already carried out those measures are rewarded? Where will the baseline start?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Rachael Hamilton

Will you give us an overview of the work that the food security unit is carrying out?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Rachael Hamilton

Do you already have that evidence?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Rachael Hamilton

You mentioned the Werritty report, which says that licensing should be introduced only if raptor populations have not improved. What evidence do you have to suggest that raptor persecution and grouse moors are connected? On what objective evidence are you basing your assertions on the rates of raptor persecution? The golden eagle project is eight years old, so it is now out of date.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Rachael Hamilton

Was there evidence to suggest the connection? What did you use—DNA or other things? How did you connect the crimes to the grouse moors or establish that the persecution was committed by somebody who was managing a grouse moor?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Rachael Hamilton

Can you provide the committee with that specific evidence so that we can take a look at it? I cannot see it in the information that we have. The offences overall in the wildlife crime reports are not split between those that connect to grouse moors and others. The numbers of raptor persecution offences are coming down, so clearly whatever is happening out there is working.

Professor Werritty said to the Government in his recommendations that, if the raptor population numbers did not improve, a licensing scheme would be appropriate.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Rachael Hamilton

I will go back to some of the original stuff that we talked about. Does the Government have evidence to suggest that the cause of death in relation to raptor persecution is linked to grouse moors? Obviously, the aim is to ensure that there is robust evidence and that there is a causal link to a specific aim that you are trying to achieve, because, although there are other relevant offences in other bits of legislation, this is specific and relevant to wildlife crime that is related to grouse moor management. It is almost as though it is different for those who are operating grouse moors, compared with other regulation.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Rachael Hamilton

No, no, no—we need clarity.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Rachael Hamilton

It could or—