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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 24 June 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Rachael Hamilton

Stakeholders have told me that they had very little time to engage in the process. The separate piece that you are talking about of publishing your proposals, which met legal requirements, was different. A considerable number of stakeholders were not asked to respond to the consultation within the 20 working days. A number of people have come to me and said that they were not asked to respond to your consultation. Why was that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Rachael Hamilton

How many of those responded?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Rachael Hamilton

I have a brief question on road traffic accidents. To register my interest, I note that my daughter had a very bad accident like those that you have described, but she is fine. I do not understand how road traffic accidents can be prevented if male deer are being shot near pregnant hinds, causing them to bolt. How will you monitor the number of road traffic accidents if you are using the SSI to bring the numbers down? I do not understand how you can monitor the reduction in the number of accidents due to the SSI.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Rachael Hamilton

Was that—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Rachael Hamilton

The minister has answered the questions, but it looks as though operators will need two types of equipment to do what the SSI requires. Investment in equipment will be required, and that money will need to come out of the budget. I have spoken to people who say that it will cost them, on average, £10,000 to get equipment that is up to standard. Hugh Dignon is shaking his head, but I have heard from stakeholders who say that.

The minister has said that changes will need to be made to best practice and to the fit and competent test for night shooting authorisations for the welfare of the operator. We are being expected to pass the SSI when we have no answer to those questions. It is just like what has happened with other pieces of legislation that have passed responsibility for codes of practice to NatureScot. Committee members are being expected to be mind readers and to know what will be in the fit and competent test so that the welfare of operators can be upheld.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Rachael Hamilton

I think that the figure you quoted was that 17 per cent of culled deer are culled at night.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Rachael Hamilton

Okay. Going back to basics, is it the male or female cull that reduces deer numbers?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Rachael Hamilton

FLS will not have to submit them at all, but even if it did, they would not be turned down, so what is the problem?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Rachael Hamilton

That is fine.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Rachael Hamilton

Okay. So, NatureScot will have oversight of anything that is attached to certain circumstances, such as, as Kate Forbes described, the age of a culled male deer?