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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 23 June 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Rachael Hamilton

My question is for Lesley Mitchell. You are absolutely right that our approach should be about viable farming within the objectives. The bill talks about thriving rural communities, but not about the viability of farms. The committee recently visited a progressive arable unit in the Borders, at Colin McGregor’s place at Coldstream Mains. He described to us what he had been doing over the years on low tillage and low inputs. He described his approach as regenerative.

My point is that if we do not have an objective to ensure that we de-risk farming and that there are viable farming units, the term “regenerative” means nothing. It is just a label that allows a Government to describe farming in a certain way because it wants to meet a net zero target; there is no meat on those bones. That is what we are missing here. Without farmers actually being sustainable, we cannot achieve net zero.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Rachael Hamilton

It is just an observation, convener. Yesterday, we received the response to a Government-initiated question on the timetable for the forthcoming land reform bill. A number of our witnesses today have mentioned cross-cutting legislative areas that minister should have regard to, one of them being land reform. Given that that bill has been delayed, I think that it is incumbent on the committee to seek clarification from the cabinet secretary, Mairi Gougeon, of when we will see a draft of it, so that we can consider that alongside the Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Rachael Hamilton

Considering the recent cuts to the agricultural budget, would you be confident that the rural support plan will be accompanied by the resources that you need to achieve the four objectives that have been laid out in the bill?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Rachael Hamilton

To go back to the rural support plan, are you saying that, to achieve the four objectives, the money that the Scottish Government puts in should be ring fenced for agriculture?

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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Rachael Hamilton

I will carry on with questions about the rural support plan. In its submission, the Scottish Crofting Federation talked about some of the related matters that should be included in it. Would others like to put on record what they believe should be in the plan in terms of the related matters that cross-reference other bills or acts?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Rachael Hamilton

Kirsty Jenkins, which areas of animal welfare are you concerned about? The farming sector is highly regulated by farm assurance schemes, but you said that consumers are particularly concerned about animal welfare in food production. What specific areas are you thinking of?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Rachael Hamilton

We need to consider the limitations of the EU in delivering on climate change policy in agriculture, too. Many people have kicked back on the farm to fork strategy, and some organic producers have found that their products are now no longer niche. We need to be cognisant of the fact that some of it is not working. Some examples have been lauded in the room today as things that we should aspire to, but we need to consider the other side of that, too.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Rachael Hamilton

I mean the issues that you have just talked about, such as fair work and supporting smallholdings and crofters.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Rachael Hamilton

Liz, you talked about the carrot and the stick. Are there aspects of CPD that Lantra believes should be either compulsory or voluntary?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Rachael Hamilton

Convener, can I follow up very quickly with Donald MacKinnon?