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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 June 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Rachael Hamilton

I am just trying to compare like with like.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Rachael Hamilton

I have a question on that. If someone was suspected of committing an offence, would they not automatically get their licence suspended?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Rachael Hamilton

Thank you, convener.

I will press amendment 183. In closing, I want to add that I am shocked by the minister. I do not know whether he has been grasped by the civil servants since he has become a minister, but he has done a complete U-turn. He now supports amendment 102 but, when we debated the bill in the chamber at stage 1, he clearly suggested to Ariane Burgess that the muirburn season should be curtailed earlier. I would like the minister to explain why he has done that huge U-turn.

I do not know whether I went into a parallel universe, but I thought that the minister was going to address the point on which I tried to make an intervention. He said that he was going to address the training issue and the Government鈥檚 aspiration, given that hundreds of people will be coming forward to get a licence. Closing the season on 31 March will put that training aspiration at a complete loss.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Rachael Hamilton

Yes, but how long would that take, through an investigation?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Rachael Hamilton

A lot of us have been out to see muirburn. If the minister has seen muirburn, did he witness that peat was burned after the muirburn or whether sphagnum moss remained wet where it was a depth of 50cm, which is the current level used in the survey data?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Rachael Hamilton

National survey data of peat at the 50cm depth threshold is currently available. It therefore follows that that definition should be retained to provide land managers with a degree of certainty about what constitutes peatland or non-peatland areas. Before passing regulations about heather and grass burning in England, the then secretary of state George Eustice ensured that peat survey data was available at the requisite threshold.

The provision of de minimis will help to safeguard against issues arising from variable peat depth in small areas by mandating that, to constitute peatland, peat must be of a 50cm depth in a single area of half a hectare or more.

I believe that amendment 169, in the name of Ariane Burgess, is completely unworkable and would unreasonably curtail muirburn activity by stealth. It would also have a Scotland-wide impact, which would rapidly increase fuel load and create a significant risk of wildfire.

On Colin Smyth鈥檚 amendment 171, I do not believe that peat depth or a below-ground metric should be used to regulate muirburn, which is an above-ground activity.

I favour the retention of a 50cm peat depth as the defining characteristic of peatland, because national survey data exists at that depth, providing greater certainty to end users. There is no scientific basis for moving to a 30cm depth.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Rachael Hamilton

I understand the intention, which is based on the Werritty review鈥檚 recommendations. However, how does medicated grit relate to a code of practice that is related to the disturbance of wild animals, wild birds and wild plants?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Rachael Hamilton

How does that help with the disturbance of wild animals, wild birds and wild plants?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Rachael Hamilton

On that point, I believe that the group has an important scrutiny role. We are not seeing that work, because the Government is choosing whether to publish it. That does not allow us to do our job.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Rachael Hamilton

We currently have 拢621 million from the UK Government. What is that in tiers 1 and 2? You said that you wanted clarity on future funding. You have allocated 70 per cent in tier 1 and 2. What are you basing those figures on?