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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 June 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 24 April 2024

Rachael Hamilton

But what is the point? It is not your fault, but what is the point of having the trials if they are setting that precedent in delivering REM across the fleets when what RSPB Scotland wants is to look at that outcome? The trials have not even proven that that can happen without citizen science on board.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 24 April 2024

Rachael Hamilton

Elspeth Macdonald indicated that trials have been carried out with REM in place to work out whether the outcomes that the Government wants from it will be achieved. What is the point in carrying out a trial when we cannot prove that those outcomes will be achieved? I do not get it, but that might be my personal opinion.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 24 April 2024

Rachael Hamilton

Can Ian Gatt comment on whether he believes that there is a level playing field?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 24 April 2024

Rachael Hamilton

On a practical point, how does the marine directorate ensure that there is compliance among non-Scottish vessels out at sea?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 24 April 2024

Rachael Hamilton

On whom does the responsibility lie for international or UK-wide discussions about that level playing field?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 24 April 2024

Rachael Hamilton

I want to pick up on what Ian Gatt said about there being 150 non-UK vessels fishing the pelagic waters. Is it possible鈥攁nd does Marine Scotland have the resource鈥攖o analyse and share all the data that is collected from REM? We would not want to be biased when it comes to gathering data. We would not want Marine Scotland to target only Scottish vessels, because it would need to use a suitable sampling programme that randomises the data, rather than picking on certain vessels. How will that work?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 24 April 2024

Rachael Hamilton

Marine Scotland will need a huge pool of human analysers to look at the screens and the data. We know that humans can make mistakes, and there is only a certain length of time that humans can look at a screen. You will need a huge pool of resource to be able to analyse that data and make it meaningful.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 24 April 2024

Rachael Hamilton

My final, final question is for Joe Whitelegg. How many non-compliance situations have you come across involving vessels that are not registered to your fisheries?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 24 April 2024

Rachael Hamilton

My question is supplementary to Karen Adam鈥檚 question on data transmission request notices. It appears that a number of Scottish vessels have been giving data to Marine Scotland already. How is that data being used? Do you see that data? Is the science for compliance or for opportunity for fishermen to, for example, ensure that they have the right quotas? I am unsure about what that data does and whether there will be the necessary resource to ensure that the data that has been requested is used effectively.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 24 April 2024

Rachael Hamilton

So, is it really science for compliance? You said that you need to have confidence in the sector. Is that because you do not trust the sector and you want to see what it is doing鈥攁 bit like Big Brother鈥攐r is it because, as you said in your introduction, you want to see the data in order to improve some of the targets that you say are not being achieved in the marine environment? If so, how do you do that, and does Marine Scotland have the resource to do that? Is it science for compliance or science for opportunity?