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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 26 December 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

I will pick you up on that point. Does that mean that if a scheme, to use your word, was insufficient, inadequate or had an absence of procedural safeguards, it would infringe article 8 of the European convention on human rights?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

I want to develop the questioning around reducing the age from 18 to 16 and open a discussion on whether you believe that people aged 16 are mature enough to make such decisions. We have heard a lot of examples—as you will know from following the committee evidence, the discussion is very polarised. At 16, someone can get married or join the Army, and at 18, they can buy fireworks, have a tattoo, buy alcohol and all the rest of it. There are very different settings within those two years.

I am interested in Karon Monaghan’s point that the European convention on human rights does not require such a scheme. I would like you to develop that point and say whether it relates to the age difference. How does that sit with the specific safeguarding concerns that some people may have in this area, and with the European convention? Do you think that parental consent should be required? What are your views? Naomi Cunningham can start.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

I asked for clarification but it ended up growing arms and legs. I could go on.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

The national health service in Scotland is not the real route to getting a certificate, then.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

Thank you.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

If somebody came to seek medical treatment to obtain a GRC, you would keep that data, but if they sought medical treatment and did not obtain a GRC, you would not keep that data—or do you not keep such data in either case?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

If fewer trans people seek medical treatment to obtain a GRC by self-declaration, how will you know what your service provision should be in the future?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

In the committee’s work, it is important that we are able to understand the legal implications from the point of view of someone who has the specialist ability to comment on that. I do not expect you to be able to do that, but perhaps it is something that we should consider. Accessing life-saving clinical treatment may be slightly different from accessing puberty blockers. Perhaps we should develop that with an expert on specific case law—

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

Naomi Cunningham, do you have any further comments?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

That is helpful. Do you have a minimum age for service provision in your clinics?