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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 August 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

Do you think that it would be difficult to challenge or override the individualised assessment that the SPS would normally allow? Do you feel that you are going to be vulnerable to legal challenge?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

Would it be possible—

Sorry, Mr Kerr.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

It is your turn at last, Dr Guyan—you have waited patiently. In your opening statement, you said that data should reflect experience, and that it should reflect who we are and who we want to be. You said that there is too much data—you can correct me if you did not say that; I was a bit shocked when you said it, so I wanted some clarity there. Is it your position that we should now collect only data based on gender ID, and not data on sex?

11:00  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

I was just referencing the specific examples that I gave, which could be about young people seeking help in gender identification clinics, the gender pay gap and all the other issues that I have raised with regard to how we go through our lives, in terms of how that definition forms public policy, creates services and provides help.

11:15  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

Yes, but in the circumstances where the age had been reduced to 16.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

Who does the Church of Scotland engage with to come up with the policy positions that you are presenting today?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

I have looked at your faith forum. In your opening remarks, you mentioned Engender and Rape Crisis Scotland. Who else has the church engaged with to form opinion?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

Chris Ringland, you mentioned the Cass review, which, as we know, is at the interim report stage. In England, there has been a significant increase in the number of referrals of children and young people to gender recognition clinics. You seem to have quite a strong view on the importance of that review; should the bill be paused until the review publishes in full?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

Do any other members of the panel have a view on the Cass review and how important it is in the context of what we are doing in Scotland? It seems not.

12:30  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

Good morning, panel. First, I ask witnesses to explain their views on the proposal in the bill to lower the age for a GRC from 18 to 16. I ask the Rev Karen Hendry to start. We have heard that the Church of Scotland agrees with discontinuing mandatory assessments but not with lowering the age from 18 to 16. May I have your views, please?