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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 August 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

You are using the gender representation example.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

It was slightly unfair, because it was a wide question and invited quite a subjective response.

I will move on to another tricky and challenging area. Some witnesses who oppose the bill have expressed concern that, given that there is medical oversight in the GRC process, there is a chance that mental health issues, for example, could be overlooked. In a submission to the committee, the RCGP talked about the vulnerabilities of young people and the heightened risk of self-harm and suicide. Do you have concerns about those challenges?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

Might fewer trans people seek medical treatment if they are able to obtain a GRC through self-declaration? Could that have unintended consequences, in view of what we just talked about?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

Is there any way that I can get those figures, if data is not collected?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

I was not a member of the committee at that point, so it is important to get that on the public record.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

I respect the differences between the positions of Naomi Cunningham and Sharon Cowan—I think that Karon Monaghan is somewhere in the middle. For clarification, I want to ask about the legislative competence of expansion of the legal definition of “woman”. We cannot do that, can we, in the context of gender representation and the examples that Karon gave? Sharon Cowan talked about not reducing the definition to biological sex, but I do not understand how that can be interpreted in law.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

I will pick you up on that point. Does that mean that if a scheme, to use your word, was insufficient, inadequate or had an absence of procedural safeguards, it would infringe article 8 of the European convention on human rights?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

I want to develop the questioning around reducing the age from 18 to 16 and open a discussion on whether you believe that people aged 16 are mature enough to make such decisions. We have heard a lot of examples—as you will know from following the committee evidence, the discussion is very polarised. At 16, someone can get married or join the Army, and at 18, they can buy fireworks, have a tattoo, buy alcohol and all the rest of it. There are very different settings within those two years.

I am interested in Karon Monaghan’s point that the European convention on human rights does not require such a scheme. I would like you to develop that point and say whether it relates to the age difference. How does that sit with the specific safeguarding concerns that some people may have in this area, and with the European convention? Do you think that parental consent should be required? What are your views? Naomi Cunningham can start.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

I asked for clarification but it ended up growing arms and legs. I could go on.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

The national health service in Scotland is not the real route to getting a certificate, then.