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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 June 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 Audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotlandâ€

Meeting date: 19 September 2024

Jamie Greene

I am happy to correct the record—I was referring not to the former CEO but to the current COO.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 Audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotlandâ€

Meeting date: 19 September 2024

Jamie Greene

The former CEO resigned as a result of that report. That is what it says in an email from Mr MacRae to you, Mr Satti, on Wednesday 20 March. It states:

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As you are aware, the CEO tendered his resignation in December following the pending Section 22 report from the Auditor General.â€

Your view is that the section 22 report was the trigger for his resignation.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 Audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotlandâ€

Meeting date: 19 September 2024

Jamie Greene

You made the link, though. Why is that?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 Audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotlandâ€

Meeting date: 19 September 2024

Jamie Greene

What options did the board consider, other than accepting his resignation?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 Audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotlandâ€

Meeting date: 19 September 2024

Jamie Greene

Yes, but you could summarise the options that were open to you, so that we can get to how you came to the decision that you made.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 Audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotlandâ€

Meeting date: 19 September 2024

Jamie Greene

I am sorry, but I will stop you there for a second, because there is a lot in this. Did the Scottish Government approve the business case or not?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 Audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotlandâ€

Meeting date: 19 September 2024

Jamie Greene

So the section 22 report was the trigger for you to have concerns about culture and behaviour at WICS. Did nothing that happened before that raise any red flags?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 Audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotlandâ€

Meeting date: 19 September 2024

Jamie Greene

You are welcome to push back on the cabinet secretary’s comments, but do you accept her comments and agree that you failed to follow due process?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 Audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotlandâ€

Meeting date: 19 September 2024

Jamie Greene

Ms Quinn, are you satisfied with that response?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 Audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotlandâ€

Meeting date: 19 September 2024

Jamie Greene

Thank you for that update. In the interests of time, my final question is to the Scottish Government. Responsibility for public bodies and the oversight of the boards that oversee the public bodies is a matter for the sponsor division, the director general of those directorates and, ultimately, ministers and cabinet secretaries. It sounds like there has been a catalogue and a litany of extreme failures of fiscal governance across a taxpayer-funded body. When did the Scottish Government think that things were going wrong at WICS? When did it get an idea that there were issues? Was it solely the work of Audit Scotland that raised those flags?