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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 23 December 2025
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Public Audit Committee

“NHS in Scotland: Spotlight on governance”

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Jamie Greene

Right. Has anyone who has run a board that has had such high-level escalation or intervention moved to another board?

Public Audit Committee

“NHS in Scotland: Spotlight on governance”

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Jamie Greene

Yes, please check that and write to us.

We talked a little bit in the earlier session about the importance of the role of the non-executive board in holding the executive to account in any public body or organisation. If someone has been part and parcel of that organisation for a long period of time, although I can see that they may bring knowledge and experience of that sector to their non-exec role, are they simply too close to the system and the people involved in it to be able to hold them properly to account in terms of governance arrangements?

Public Audit Committee

“NHS in Scotland: Spotlight on governance”

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Jamie Greene

Yes, we heard some good examples of that as well, which is great. There is, however, an issue. There is a 25 per cent failure rate in the first round of recruitment at the highest level. That is one in four vacancies where there is a failure to appoint a candidate. That is an extremely high number relative to other parts of the public sector. Why is it so bad?

Public Audit Committee

“NHS in Scotland: Spotlight on governance”

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Jamie Greene

Yes, the aspiring chairs programme was mentioned and it seems to be reaping some degree of success as a pipeline generating new entrants and bringing people up the chain. That is particularly helpful.

However, the issues of time commitment and remuneration were first brought up in the 2021 survey. We are four years on from that. Those are not new issues, yet many boards are still struggling.

Public Audit Committee

Cairngorm Funicular Railway

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Jamie Greene

Okay, that answers that question—thank you.

My next question is more general; perhaps it is more of an observation that you can respond to. My understanding is that HIE took over the funicular in 2018, using the subsidiary that is here today, but it only fully went into operation in 2025, so seven years passed, although I appreciate that the Covid years were in the middle of that and life was difficult for everyone. Nonetheless, my understanding is that construction was still taking place during the Covid years in many sectors. Why did it take seven years to get it up and running? I find it hard to believe that any other snow-based resort in Europe would have put up with seven years of non-activity.

Public Audit Committee

Cairngorm Funicular Railway

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Jamie Greene

Mr Gifford, I appreciate that our job is to look backwards, but let us look ahead and talk about some of the positives. Clearly, the issues that you face in the Cairngorms are shared right across Europe. I am sure that you speak to colleagues in the Pyrenees or the Spanish Sierra Nevada, whose resort periods have suffered a similar level of shrinkage due to increased climate challenges. For example, last January, the average temperature in parts of Andorra was 23°C, which is incredibly difficult for a ski resort to manage, for obvious reasons.

How are you underpinning the resort’s long-term future? What are you doing to meaningfully diversify and bring in people and revenue?

Public Audit Committee

Cairngorm Funicular Railway

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Jamie Greene

Do you offer local residents any discounts, and what are they?

Public Audit Committee

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Jamie Greene

We know of communities that have suffered terribly due to flooding and that are still waiting for Government support. We are talking about £30 million of sunk costs. That is a huge amount of money that could have gone some way towards supporting businesses and households that have really struggled in the past few years. What analysis has been done of where that money actually went? Who did it go to?

Public Audit Committee

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Jamie Greene

Somebody has pocketed the cash somewhere along the line, that is for sure, because £30 million does not disappear overnight.

Public Audit Committee

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Jamie Greene

That was a significant event. To use the parlance, the scheme was designed for one-in-200-year events, but the event in question was worse than that. We cannot control the weather; I understand that point.

I was concerned by what I read in your report about some of the other funding issues. I was most surprised by what we do not know. Although we know in general terms how much the Scottish Government gives to flooding schemes, I was surprised to learn that that money is simply provided via the general capital grant funding model, and that there is no tracking of which councils get how much and what they do with the money. I was equally surprised to learn that the money is not ring fenced in any way, shape or form. Do you have any specific recommendations to make off the back of your findings?