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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 August 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Liam Kerr

I would be very grateful for that.

I understand the point that is being made and I accept, minister, that, if it was an open tendering process, that is fine. However, at some point, a decision was made. As I understand it, the contract is a standard Baltic and International Maritime Council one. I presume that, at some point, CMAL could have said as part of the negotiation that it wished to add a clause that said that, wherever possible, the yard would use the UK or Scottish supply chain. It has not done that. As a Government minister, would you have preferred that it had? In any event, when other procurement exercises take place, would you prefer CMAL to stipulate, as part of the contract negotiations, that UK and/or Scottish supply chains need to be used?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Liam Kerr

Thank you. The substantive question that I have at this stage is about Transport Scotland’s consultation on the “Islands Connectivity Plan: Long-Term Plan for Vessels and Ports on the Clyde & Hebrides and Northern Isles networks (2023-2045)”, which states:

“We will reduce the average age of the fleet to around 15 years by the end of this decade.”

How does CMAL intend to achieve that, particularly given the chair’s earlier comment that it is for the operator to dictate the spec?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Liam Kerr

Given that, the question begged is simply whether Transport Scotland’s statement on its aim to reduce the average age of the fleet to 15 years by the end of the decade will be realised, particularly given the funding situation that you alluded to, Kevin.

09:45  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Liam Kerr

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Liam Kerr

I was interested in Mark Ruskell’s questions, in response to which you said that there will be an examination of how the scheme is operating. Can you reassure me that that will also examine the uptake and usage of the scheme in rural areas, as distinct from urban areas, and particularly in areas where bus provision is more patchy and/or where there is rural poverty, so that we can ensure that the scheme is operating fairly and equitably across the whole country?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Liam Kerr

I understand.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Liam Kerr

There has certainly been a suggestion that some of what has been ordered historically and is likely to be ordered going forward is not best suited to particular routes or particular facilities. It would be interesting to hear your view on that. Can you explain to the committee how you ensure, and will ensure, that whatever is procured, whether we are talking about vessels or harbours, is best suited to the particular routes and communities that it will serve?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Liam Kerr

I understand the answer, but I will press you on that. I asked you what is the new inflationary cost of the plans on the long-term plan that is still at the working-draft stage. Should the Government not be very quickly assessing the fact that CMAL thinks that there is a £1.4 billion cost? We are in inflationary times, so when will you be able to revert to CMAL and say: “Okay, here is what is happening with inflation, so here is the real cost, if we are to achieve what you have set out in the long-term plan”?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Liam Kerr

Good morning, minister. To follow on from that questioning from Mark Ruskell, the current CHFS contract ends in October 2024. Where are we when it comes to future planning for the service delivery and the process of tendering? Will it be a problem, or is there a concern, that the contract is—presumably—in the planning stages now, before the islands connectivity plan or the long-term plan are finalised, or even before they are at the working draft stage?

11:00  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Liam Kerr

I understand.

Minister, you talked about the consultation on project Neptune. One of Ernst & Young’s recommendations was that the key commercial principles and long-term strategic objectives should be agreed by summer 2022. Have those been agreed?