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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 4 September 2024

Liam Kerr

I am very grateful for that response.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 4 September 2024

Liam Kerr

George Adam put to you the point about international students. The committee has heard that there are Scottish Government figures that say that the cash for each student place is about the same as it was 10 years ago, which is a 19 per cent reduction in real terms. We have also heard that there is a funding shortfall of about £1,500 per student. The National Union of Students Scotland told the committee that that has led to an “overreliance”—that is the NUS’s word—on cross-subsidy by international students. What is the Scottish Government’s response to that and will anything change as a result of the budget?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 4 September 2024

Liam Kerr

For absolute transparency, I remind the committee that I am currently a student at the Open University. To jump back very briefly, minister, what progress is the Scottish Government making in establishing parity of esteem in financial support for part-time students?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Liam Kerr

I have a not unrelated point. If the Barnett consequentials do come up for distribution to teachers’ employers in order to meet the increase in contributions, that raises the question whether the Scottish Government is required to use the increased Barnett funding in that way or whether it is not mandated to do so. Given the current context of councils, in particular, not having the greatest of means—if I can put it that way—I would like to understand the answer to that question.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Liam Kerr

Shona, you say in your submission that the five-year plan that you mentioned should include

“a repurposing of an element of the overall skills and education resource”.

Has the Government accepted the need for a five-year plan? If so, is it going to develop such a plan? What do you mean by “a repurposing of an element”?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Liam Kerr

I understand. I will ask about a related point. The purpose and principles document came out in June 2023, but some might say that it has not been extensively referenced since then. What is your view on that? Do you think that colleges are clear on what the Scottish Government’s expectations of them are for this year and going forward?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Liam Kerr

It will not surprise you to know that my follow-up question—which I also direct to you, Karen—is that in January, you told the Public Audit Committee that four colleges were facing “fairly significant cash-flow issues”. Can you give the committee an update, first on those four and where they are now, and secondly on the rest of the estate more generally?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Liam Kerr

I understand.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Liam Kerr

I will stick briefly with the points that have just been put to you, Professor Gillespie.

On the issue of cross-subsidising through international students, you said right at the start of the meeting that home students lose money. At the weekend, the vice-convener of Universities Scotland, Sir Paul Grice, said that the Scottish Government had not met its part of the deal on funding its free tuition policy. Given that we are coming into the budget process—Bill Kidd talked about that—what does the Scottish Government meeting its part of the deal look like? If it did that, would that mitigate the overreliance on international students?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Liam Kerr

I will stick with you on that, but I will go to Shona Struthers shortly.

The committee has heard concerns about cuts to funded places having a disproportionate impact on the post-1992 universities. In your view, what are the implications for those institutions and for Scotland-domiciled students? In relation to the point that you have just made, what could the Scottish Government do with the money that it is not using on those funded places?