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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 August 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Liam Kerr

I will ask one question because of time. I will direct it to you, Tim Lord, and then, if Jeremy Lawson and Sandy Begbie want to add to your answer, they can indicate that in the chat box.

The deputy convener’s question about investing was a good one, and the answer that you gave about pensions and public influence is important. You said that one of the roles of pension funds is genuine emissions reduction, and, in your answer to Mark Ruskell’s question, you talked about the energy market.

One of the ways to achieve emissions reduction is to increase our sourcing of local rather than imported oil and gas, which will also help to reduce energy costs to the consumer and increase our energy security. Companies such as BP and Shell are investing a great deal in EV charging while other oil and gas companies are investing in wind power. How do you decide what investment decisions are green and, thus, which companies or projects it is appropriate to invest in or divest from? How much are those decisions influenced by the attitude of Governments and the public towards, and their understanding of, the domestic oil and gas industry, for example?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Liam Kerr

The ambition is not being delivered, and the minister has not answered the questions that were posed by Maurice Golden in particular. I abstain.

For

Natalie Don (Renfrewshire North and West) (SNP)
Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP)
Fiona Hyslop (Linlithgow) (SNP)
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)

Against

Monica Lennon (Central Scotland) (Lab)

Abstentions

Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con)
Dean Lockhart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Liam Kerr

I am not sure that that answers my question, minister, because there will obviously be a scheme cost to the public purse to set it up. Perhaps you can come back on that if you are aware of such costs and they have been sorted out.

Secondly, has the Government strategised any scheme to allow smaller businesses to attract and retain customers in a similar manner to the big supermarkets, which presumably can incentivise customers through their loyalty schemes?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Liam Kerr

I hand back to you, convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Liam Kerr

I am grateful for those answers. I think that what I am hearing, particularly in George Tarvit’s answer to the second part of my question, is that there is not yet a sufficient plan to leverage the £33 billion. On that note, in an earlier answer to the convener, John Wincott mentioned the Scottish green public sector estate decarbonisation scheme. Is that scheme sufficiently funded to decarbonise the public sector estate?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Liam Kerr

I am grateful for that summary.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Liam Kerr

Earlier, the convener talked about funding and the need to leverage private finance. The Scottish Government proposes to deliver its heat in buildings strategy using £336 million this year and £1.8 billion by 2026. Will that be enough? As far as the witnesses are aware, is there a sufficient plan to leverage the £33 billion that will apparently be required?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Liam Kerr

I put the same questions to Philip Revell.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Liam Kerr

Good morning, minister. The regulations strike me as welcome but extraordinarily complex, so I want to ask a couple of things to clear them up in my mind. Section 8A(5) of the Climate Change (Scotland) Act 2009 defines “nitrogen use efficiency” and you said that that means comparing what goes in with what comes out. Regulation 4 sets the baseline for that at 25 per cent. Will you explain what that means? What is that 25 per cent? What is going in precisely where and coming out precisely where, and why was 25 per cent felt to be the appropriate figure for the efficient use of nitrogen?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Liam Kerr

I will be brief. I direct my question to Mark McRitchie, who I ask to give a brief answer if possible; the other witnesses can come in if they have something to add.

The heat in buildings strategy requires homes to have an energy performance certificate rating of C by 2033. The installation of new or replacement fossil fuel boilers will be phased out after 2025 for off-gas houses and from 2030 for on-gas houses. Are communities aware of those impending deadlines? Is sufficient support available to them to meet the deadlines? In any event, are communities aware of that support?