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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland鈥檚 Supply Chain

Meeting date: 17 November 2021

Colin Smyth

I put the same question to Paul Little. Feel free to tell us if we policymakers are not doing enough to help you to do the job.

One of the issues for colleges, particularly those in rural areas, is that it is quite easy to deliver a course for which there is a demand for 20 or 30 students, because that makes it financially viable. However, if only 10 very specialist engineers are needed, it is not financially viable to run the class. Is there something that we need to do to support colleges to deliver that work?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland鈥檚 Supply Chain

Meeting date: 17 November 2021

Colin Smyth

That is very useful. Chris, I am not going to ask you for a rebuttal, but I ask you and Marie whether there is anything that we should be doing to assist you in doing that job. One thing that you will know about, Chris鈥擨 have spoken to you about it in the past鈥攊s flexibility in apprenticeships. I was at a business in the south of Scotland last week where I was asked why apprenticeships take three years and not two years. Flexibility is needed to meet the challenges. Can we do something to assist?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland鈥檚 Supply Chain

Meeting date: 10 November 2021

Colin Smyth

Thank you. I put the same point to Professor Simms.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland鈥檚 Supply Chain

Meeting date: 10 November 2021

Colin Smyth

The clock is obviously ticking and we know that there will be job losses in many sectors as part of the journey to net zero. You are saying that we still do not know what those good jobs will be that will replace those jobs, never mind the skills that will be needed.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland鈥檚 Supply Chain

Meeting date: 10 November 2021

Colin Smyth

That is fine鈥攊t was unfair of me to throw in that question at the end, after talking about a subject where there is a solution that involves breaking down some of those barriers. Do the other witnesses want to talk about barriers to accessing upskilling and reskilling opportunities?

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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland鈥檚 Supply Chain

Meeting date: 10 November 2021

Colin Smyth

There has been a great deal of debate about it. The oil and gas sector is the obvious sector to talk about, because, inevitably, there will be job losses in that sector. If we are to ensure that our workforce is skilled to take on alternative employment鈥攚e call that a just transition; there are lots of phrases used for that鈥攚hat skills are needed to ensure that people are equipped for those alternative green jobs?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland鈥檚 Supply Chain

Meeting date: 10 November 2021

Colin Smyth

I certainly agree on that point. Mark Logan, could I have your comments?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland鈥檚 Supply Chain

Meeting date: 10 November 2021

Colin Smyth

We understand that there are uncertainties about the jobs of the future, but what is stopping that mapping process taking place now?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland鈥檚 Supply Chain

Meeting date: 10 November 2021

Colin Smyth

That would be helpful鈥攖hank you.

Am I out of time, deputy convener?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland鈥檚 Supply Chain

Meeting date: 10 November 2021

Colin Smyth

Thank you, convener. Good morning. I will address an issue that has been touched on already. Katy Heidenreich talked about a managed transition and others referred to a just transition, not just in obvious sectors such as oil and gas, but across all sectors in the journey to net zero. Therefore, what key skills does Scotland need to equip people to deliver a genuinely just transition? How does the pipeline for those skills look? I want to hear from all the witnesses on that, but I will start with you, Katy, as you represent the obvious sector in that regard.