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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 25 December 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Rona Mackay

Are all sheriffs aware of those options?

Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Rona Mackay

That is reassuring.

Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Rona Mackay

Okay. That is good to know.

Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Rona Mackay

David Mackie, would you like to comment briefly on that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Rona Mackay

I have two questions. The first goes back to section 23D and my colleagues’ earlier questions. I will be frank: I do not think that your explanation for the removal of section 23D, on which you are unanimously agreed, will reassure women’s organisations or victims. I understand what you are saying about the whole-system approach. That is fine if it works, but that is a big if.

I cannot quite grasp your point. Are you saying that you want to have the ability to release a domestic abuser? Why would that ever be correct? I cannot understand that. It is possible that I do not understand your reasons. Why not keep the exceptions to reassure victims and organisations? I am unsure of your reasons for not doing that.

Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Rona Mackay

That is fine. Thank you.

Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Rona Mackay

Thank you. That is really useful.

Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Rona Mackay

Wendy Sinclair-Gieben, I have some questions for you. The number of women on remand is shockingly high—I do not need to tell you that—and the disruption to families that follows is evident. Why do you think that so many women are remanded for low-level offences? Why are they there in the first place? I do not know whether you heard the previous session, but we spoke to a solicitor who had dealt with a case where the person was directed to the 218 project in Glasgow, which is hugely successful. I put it to her that, if that happened more often, fewer women would be remanded. What is your view?

Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Rona Mackay

David Mackie, what is your view on the removal of section 23D? Are women’s organisations and victims right to be concerned about that? I presume that you heard the earlier session, where it was unanimously agreed that it should be removed. I still cannot get my head around that, but maybe you can give me your view.

Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Rona Mackay

Good morning. I have three questions—one for each of you. Professor Loucks, you mentioned your organisation’s excellent and very detailed report on the cost to families of imprisonment and release. We do not have time to delve into the report, obviously, but what is its key message?