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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 August 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Correspondence

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Rona Mackay

I can speak only for the situation at St Mary鈥檚 Kenmure, which is the secure care home in my constituency. In its case, there are always enough beds, and the cross-border placements coming from England are part of the funding solution.

We are definitely moving in the right direction, and I am really pleased to see a focus on the issue at last. However, it is perhaps quite a timid start. The Scottish Government has agreed to pay for the last bed in each of the four secure centres as it becomes available. A bed is always available at St Mary鈥檚.

The short-term objectives of the funding are to reduce the number of cross-border placements, as required by the Promise. Collette Stevenson is right to say that we must think about the young people who are involved. That said, there are not enough secure places in England, which is why they are coming up here. We have been using that as a way to fund our system, but I hope that we are looking at that and saying that we need to have a different framework. I am quite optimistic that this is the start of a journey for making that process better, and I am glad to see that something is being done at last.

Criminal Justice Committee

Correspondence

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Rona Mackay

I agree with Jamie Greene鈥檚 comments鈥擨 do not think that we have all the information. Things have clearly reached an impasse, and I do not think that we have all the facts set out clearly before us.

We are not mediators, but it would be good to know more about the background to the dispute. I agree with Jamie Greene; it is a sensible proposition to ask for a fairly easy-to-understand timeline to enable us to know what has been going on. Once we get that, we can consider whether there is any role for the committee in the matter. That is not to say that the situation is not concerning, but work is clearly on-going.

Criminal Justice Committee

Correspondence

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Rona Mackay

Jamie Greene is right. This is exactly the sort of issue that we would have drilled into in the previous Justice Sub-Committee on Policing. We definitely need to set aside some time to try to get answers.

Criminal Justice Committee

Correspondence

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Rona Mackay

I want to put on record my delight that the not proven verdict will be abolished, as we heard yesterday. That is good news for victims, particularly of sexual crimes. It is a historic and radical change, but one that is long overdue.

Criminal Justice Committee

Correspondence

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Rona Mackay

The response basically tells us what we already knew, so I am not sure that it is helpful. What we were asking was whether the framework is the correct one. We were not saying that the national health service should not be involved; there needs to be more connections on a number of issues. The response is quite short and it basically tells us what we already know. It would be good to probe a wee bit further into how the arrangements could work better.

Criminal Justice Committee

Correspondence

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Rona Mackay

It does not need to be a full morning session but we could get people together for even just an hour or an hour and a half to see what the issues are from their side and what the process is now. We could follow up what was said with the cabinet secretary.

I am just putting that suggestion out there. I agree with your initial plan to write a letter.

Criminal Justice Committee

Correspondence

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Rona Mackay

Can we also follow up Collette Stevenson鈥檚 suggestion, to find out how the pilot in Dundee is going?

Criminal Justice Committee

Correspondence

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Rona Mackay

On the proposed visit to Stop It Now! Scotland, will you give me some clarity by reminding me what that organisation does? I have in my head that it is about the rehabilitation of paedophiles and abusers.

Criminal Justice Committee

Correspondence

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Rona Mackay

Are we talking about things such as online abuse?

Criminal Justice Committee

Correspondence

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Rona Mackay

Yes. I just wanted clarification. Thank you.