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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 August 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 April 2024

Rona Mackay

NDAs are not addressed in the bill. Maybe we should find out more about how widely used they are. I suspect that they should be addressed in the bill.

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 April 2024

Rona Mackay

Good morning, Margaret. I want to ask you about the SPA and your interactions with it. What do you think its role should be, given your experience of dealing with the various authorities?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 April 2024

Rona Mackay

That is helpful. Would you say that ex-police officers and, perhaps, members of the judiciary should not be part of the independent body? Would you like to see representatives on it coming from other walks of life?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Rona Mackay

During the long time that you have been involved in this, was there any mention at any time of the Scottish Police Authority?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Rona Mackay

Yes.

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Rona Mackay

Was there a difference in police attitude after you took out a complaint compared with before? From what you are saying, I know that there was poor communication before that, which is why you ended up having to put in a complaint.

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Rona Mackay

Did you feel that you were being failed by the system at that point?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Rona Mackay

Thank you for coming in to talk to us. I want to go back to some of your previous comments about the PIRC. I understand that you do not think that the PIRC is independent enough to scrutinise the police and that the complaints system should stand outside of that.

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Rona Mackay

It is almost funny鈥攊t is just so strange. How did you feel when you got that response?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Rona Mackay

Okay. Do you think that an entirely independent board should be investigating complaints?