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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 August 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Rona Mackay

Therefore, you will hold Police Scotland to account on any of those matters. If you hear about or see something happening that should not be happening, you will hold it to account.

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Rona Mackay

Okay鈥攖hank you. That was helpful. Would anyone else like to comment?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Rona Mackay

Has an evaluation of that work been done at any point?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Rona Mackay

Fiona McQueen, in your opening statement you said that the bill possibly does not go far enough and that not all of Lady Elish鈥檚 recommendations have been met. I have two questions. First, do you think that the process would still be overly complicated, despite the bill, because of all the different layers of bodies dealing with complaints, such as professional standards, the SPA and the PIRC?

Secondly, the previous chief constable and the current one have stated publicly that the force is institutionally racist and discriminatory. Do you think that the bill will go any way towards helping in that regard? What steps has the SPA taken to try to address that?

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Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Rona Mackay

Good morning. Some of the issues that witnesses have told us about include the length of time taken to process complaints, a lack of transparency and a lack of communication. Will the bill address any of that? Moreover, the Scottish Police Federation told us that accelerated hearings within 35 days are already possible under the current misconduct regulations, but they do not happen. Can you shed some light on why that is?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Rona Mackay

I am sorry to interrupt, but when was that introduced?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Rona Mackay

I understand. That is helpful.

The SPA has reported only three dismissals out of 25 gross misconduct hearings. I would think that the bar for being charged with gross misconduct is very high, but three dismissals out of 25 does not seem a lot. Will you explain why the number of dismissals is so low?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Rona Mackay

Could you clarify what role your department plays in any complaint, such as an initial complaint, before it gets farmed out to other places?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Rona Mackay

Would it contact you directly?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Rona Mackay

Does the officer contact human resources?